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World War IV Begins Here
Boston Herald ^ | April 6, 2003 | James Woolsey

Posted on 04/06/2003 9:29:25 AM PDT by SamAdams76

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1 posted on 04/06/2003 9:29:26 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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Link to an earlier, longer Woolsley piece on this same topic:

World War IV: Analysis by James Woolsey

2 posted on 04/06/2003 9:33:51 AM PDT by Fixit
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To: Fixit
[please excuse typo in #2]

Ever earlier form, from a speech last year.

World War IV: The nature of the war we face

3 posted on 04/06/2003 9:36:19 AM PDT by Fixit
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To: SamAdams76
Bring it on.
4 posted on 04/06/2003 9:36:25 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: SamAdams76
I propose that there were several world wars before 1914. The American Revolution was part of a greater world war. There were the Napoleanic wars. The war for Spanish succession. Several others. If this is world war, its probably WWX or so.
5 posted on 04/06/2003 9:37:00 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: SamAdams76
Interesting article. I only have one major argument:

We want them to be nervous. We want them to realize that America is on the march, and we are on the side of those whom they most fear - their own people.

I want them to be very afraid, I want them trembling, I want them to respond as if they are the ones in this passage in the Bible: "As for those of you who are left, I will make their hearts so fearful in the lands of their enemies that the sound of a windblown leaf will put them to flight. They will run as though fleeing from the sword, and they will fall, even though no one is pursuing them." Leviticus 26:36

Yup, that's what I want.

6 posted on 04/06/2003 9:38:00 AM PDT by Gamecock (As seen on Taglinus FreeRepublicus - 5th Edition)
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To: SamAdams76
We should to take on Syria next.

And we should make a League of Free Nations to coordinate our allies in this war.

7 posted on 04/06/2003 9:39:42 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I predict hysteria at the UN)
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To: SamAdams76
Good piece, but I'm having trouble finding the source link at Boston Herald. I like this shorter summarized version and would like to share it with some 'non-conservative' associates whom I can never get to look at Free Republic without seeing the source material first.

I could use one of the older, longer versions but if you happen to have the real link to this one, that would be better.

Thanks, Lloyd

8 posted on 04/06/2003 9:45:08 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (While I don't claim to know what the truth is, this was an interesting read)
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The Boston Herald only posted selected comments from a speech he gave at UCLA on April 2. They are posted in their entirety here. There is no link to the Herald website though these comments appeared on page 25 of today's printed edition. Recently, the Herald has begun cutting back the number of articles posted to its website. So I typed this in by hand.
9 posted on 04/06/2003 9:47:48 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: Fixit
I dunno who this chap is, but this paragraph obviously marks him down as someone whose head is screwed on the right way:

One can argue now that the resolution requires the United States to go through Hans Blix in order to find a violation of the Security Council resolution, whether it's in the declaration, which Saddam owes on December 8, or a resistance by the Iraqis of inspections. Hans Blix, to put it as gently as a I can, does not have a stellar background of inquisitiveness or decisiveness. When in early 2000, the current U.N. inspection regime was being set up, the first head of the inspection regime was actually proposed, who would have been fine. The French and Russians and Chinese carrying Iraq's water objected to him and Kofi Annan found the one U.N. bureaucrat w ho would be acceptable to Saddam Hussein, namely Hans Blix. People can change. We can hope that Hans Blix does not continue as the Inspector Clouzo of international investigations.

See numerous other postings on Blix.

10 posted on 04/06/2003 10:03:15 AM PDT by alnitak
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To: alnitak
Woolsey was a CIA director (under Clinton, but hey...)

11 posted on 04/06/2003 10:07:03 AM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: SamAdams76
btttttttttt
12 posted on 04/06/2003 10:29:22 AM PDT by ellery
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To: SamAdams76
Two errors in the above, generally accurate article. Of the 120 "democracies," mamy of them are dictatorships in the guise of democracies, like Zimbabwe. In short, it is still true that a majority of the world's nations are still dictatorships of one stripe or another.

That's why the United Nations is a fatally flawed institution. Both on its Security Council (through vetoes) and in its General Assembly and other bodies (by majority) the dictators are still running the show. So worldwide, things are not as optimistic as this author believes.

The other error is an obvious one that any able writer, or editor, should have caught. The name of the referenced university is "Johns Hopkins." The gentleman after whom the university was named had an "s" at the end of his first name.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, now up on UPI, and FR, "The Berlin Solution to the Baghdad Problem."

Latest book(let), "to Restore Trust in America."

13 posted on 04/06/2003 10:34:20 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Saddam has left the building. Heck, the building has left the building.")
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To: SamAdams76
Woolsey is on Cspan right now.
14 posted on 04/06/2003 10:37:08 AM PDT by Paraclete
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Now that U.S. forces have reached Baghdad, let us put today's events in historical perspective. In a sense, as John Hopkins professor Eliot Cohen has noted, we have entered World War IV.

WWIV started 9/11/01, where has this guy been?

15 posted on 04/06/2003 10:39:46 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: SamAdams76
Can't wait for our Victory celebrations!
16 posted on 04/06/2003 10:42:09 AM PDT by Captiva (DVC)
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To: fhayek
WWI marked an new era in warfare in many areas. What made this the first true World War was the sheer number of countries involved. It wasn't really called World War I at the time. From what I have heard and read, it was either called The Great War or some variation on that. Also, the end of it really left the world a different place. Almost no nation was left unaffected. No war like it had ever been faught.

WWII was WWI on steroids. Every power left standing after WWI was invited. I don't think that the Cold War should be considered WWIII, but instead, IMO, should more appropriately be considered an extention of WWII, but not going as far as revising the end of the war to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

It just doesn't seem right to say that WWIII has already happened. It was pretty much a common belief for a couple of generations that WWIII would be nuclear.
17 posted on 04/06/2003 10:56:43 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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Now that U.S. forces have reached Baghdad, let us put today's events in historical perspective. In a sense, as John Hopkins professor Eliot Cohen has noted, we have entered World War IV.

... on September 11th, 2001.

Never Forget.

18 posted on 04/06/2003 10:57:49 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: EGPWS
Or did WW IV start in 609 AD, when Mohammed began to teach Islam?
19 posted on 04/06/2003 11:42:20 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: SamAdams76
James Woolsey is blowing wind, when he writes, "America has to convince the people of the Middle East that we are on their side, just as we convinced Lech Walesa and Vaclav Havel and Andrei Sakharov that we were on their side."

All of the above employed the united States of America as political leverage against the existing Soviet Union. For Woolsey to suggest otherwise is to insult the intelligence of the Boston Herald readership in addition to the citizens of Poland, Hungry and Russia.

20 posted on 04/06/2003 12:29:32 PM PDT by Robert Drobot
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