Expert: Concern over material, Clintonite "battle managers

newsmax | March 25, 2003

[kylaka]

Even if Rumsfeld was too stupid to ask Powell what he thought about an early launch before the Turkey situation was straightened out... you can bet Cheney was smart enough to ask both Powell and Schwartzkopf if we had enough firepower in country to prevent unnecessary losses. You can't blame everything on Clinton. Nice try though!

[WOSG]

Yes, IMHO the screwup in Turkey was mainly counting on hope instead of evidence. We knew on March 3 turkey was no-go. we should have moved them to Kuwait *then*, not now.

State or Pentagon, it's a real waste of our best division.

[Paleo Conservative]

Perhaps the reason for fighting light in Iraq is so we don't have too many tanks in the Middle East. We have other fish to fry in North Korea. Another thing, we are not going up against Russian tank crews. I doubt the Iraqis are as proficient as Russians.

[AdA$tra]

This definetely is something to think about.

It would be if this guy knew what he was talking about. My cousin is a brigade commander in the 4ID. Without sinking any ships but still knowing what he told my uncle yesterday, I asked him what I could tell people about this exact issue. He said tell them not to worry it is completly under control. He pointed out that several large, well equiped units deployed are not getting mention by the press because some are not embedded and some others aren't releasing info. He said they expected this or worse as far as resistance and casualties. He also said it may take a while....or more like "This is just the beginning of this [war]."

[AdA$tra]

State or Pentagon, it's a real waste of our best division.

It is okay because they will be well rested when we move on Iran.

[AdA$tra]

Another thing this guy isn't even thinking about is airpower. In fact, if our armor had any problem they could just sit back and wait for the air guys to wipe out every single Iraqi tank. According to SECDEF, air missions for yesterday were 50% against Republican Guard posistions and tanks. That is a large number of smoking holes in the ground where tanks used to be. They also may have gotten better tanks and bullets, but they never upgraded their tank drivers.

[Terry Mross]

Well, if there really is a column moving south from Bagdad and the sand storm stops our close air support, we could be in trouble. Then again, I think we expected this sand storm so we may be suckering them....a little rope a dope.

[Swampmarine]

I agree. I'm willing to bash Clinton along with the rest of you but this plan isn't his. The author shouldn't write when his nerve is gone. A week from now he'll be embarressed.

[SENTINEL]

We can live without the additional tanks, IMHO, if we are going to hit the Republican guard outside of Baghdad. If we have to chase them into town WE ARE SCREWWED !

Please remember two things ;

1. The range of enemy artillery is about 13 miles, and we are not nearly that close yet. We can hit them with our rocket assisted artillery rounds (RAP) which have a range of 18 miles. I think that we will stay 14-17 miles from their arty and pound them for a while before we do anything.

2. The Army 4th Heavy Mech Division is only a week or so away. I have read that they are off loading at Saudi Red sea ports as we speak.

Also if you hadn't noticed, God is pounding them with wind, rain, thunder and lightning like Iraq has not seen in 20 years or more. This will greatly mask our positions, for a week or so until 4th mech shows up. Our God IS God !

[enemy9oclock]

Not to detract from the author's Clinton Bashing (which I wholeheartedly support), but there are a couple of comments that I have to question. First, from everything I've heard, nothing short of depleted uranium rounds and advanced anti-tank missiles will penetrate an M1A2 armor - even from the the side. I highly doubt that the Iraqi's have any DU munitions, although there are reports of Russian anti-tank missiles being smuggled in which might cause some problems. Also, I don't buy the comment about the 'brittle' Challenger 2 armor - the Challenger uses the same Chobham armor as the Abrams (British invention). Iraq's old T-72s have ZERO chance of standing up to our armor. Sounds like more doom and gloom from the hand-wringers to me.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Thanks for the response, Sentinel. :)

It's sad (but not to me) that this group of evildoers over there believes the storm is evidence that God is on their side.

IMHO, I read it as hell opening up and rolling out the red carpet, as our freedom-fighting troops gain upon Baghdad. However, a miscalculation by the devil...The Almighty will not let evil prevail this time, and the Republican Guard is about to learn this for the first and last time. God is using this unbelievable storm to His advantage, as evidenced by yesterday's tally.

Thanks for the info on the 4th ID, and for pointing out our artillery range capability vs. theirs.

My heart just goes out to all of our fellow Americans up in the front. And of course our troops are ready for this (no thanks to the last prez). It's just that cutting corners right now places more weight upon these folks, and IMHO, that is wrong. I mean, they've hardly slept for a week now. They've been fighting and in a hyper-alert state, have been practically eating the elements...Anyway...we shouldn't look back.

I guess I just feel for these guys (as we all do), but I think that a miscalculation at the Pentagon level ought not be left on the shoulders of those on the front lines. I mean, cripes, how much should they have to bear?

Ayway, thanks again for the info. I feel a lot better knowing relief and decisiveness are heading their way.

Hang in their guys!!! God is right there with you, and He is blessing you. And we are praying each and every minute for you!! I hope you can feel the U.S.A.'s ***love and support*** as you smear the evil cesspool down to hell where it belongs!!!