To: John H K
gimme a break..you must have not read the news or watch tv lately..
where are the massice surrenderings?? iraq suppose to have 300K troops - only 3,000 surrender, what happen to the rest..i doubt they all go back home...
sock and awe - who are we awe here - the picture of the firebombs is creating a PR disaster for us in the Arab world..yes, the red cross said there was only one civilian dead from the bombs..but that pic - the image of baghdad under a dresden-like firebombing is what all the arabs will remember..shock and awe should be shocking and awful...there were no defections, no increase in surrenderings after the firebombs...
happy iraqis - other than that minor news clip from swafan, we hit resistance in every town we go...there were no flowers to greet us, we get bullets instead...
all the assumptions rummy based on have proved woefully wrong...still, i hope he is right at the end..but, i firmly believe he is too drunk in his own rum to see through the fog of war...
64 posted on
03/24/2003 8:07:37 PM PST by
FRgal4u
To: FRgal4u
the image of baghdad under a dresden-like firebombing is what all the arabs will remember
And thats a bad thing?
68 posted on
03/24/2003 8:09:00 PM PST by
Arkinsaw
To: FRgal4u
I have only ONE concern: Chemical weapons. It could cause some panic.
If that happens, I say its time to change the rules of engagement and go full bore on Iraqi forces, WHEREVER they are.
72 posted on
03/24/2003 8:12:20 PM PST by
tomahawk
To: FRgal4u
Sec Defense is a political job, I sometimes wonder if he should be so personally involved in the actual planning and excution of the war plan as opposed to just being the big picture guy - conveying the President's directives and provide the political cover for the generals.
To: FRgal4u
There is a lot of speculation by former generals such as McCaffrey about the state of the war and our battle plan but before we fret too much about the opinions of GW I commentators I'd like to make a few observations:
1) If memory serves, McCaffrey's superiors in the first Gulf War were Cheney and Powell who I note are actively involved in this campaign. Tommy Franks and other members of the command and control are also Gulf War vets. Their thoughts and opinions carry more weight at this point than many of the commentators who have been retired for several years.
2) Some have commented on Rummy's inexperience. I seem to remember Rummy running a pretty successful war campaign in Afghanistan last year. I also remember those critics who were talking about a stalled war effort and rising casualties when in fact the Taliban fell shortly following their criticism.
3) Yes, Rummy initially favored a smaller invasion force but that does not indicate his first battle plan would have followed the same strategy as the one now.
4) You are vastly underestimating the intellingence of the Arab world. The arabs supporting Saddam and radical Islam don't care if we carpet bomb or drop daisies, they will hate America regardless. I'm less worried about how we are welcomed in the middle of the conflict as I am concerning how we are welcomed once Saddam's regime is removed.
5) Please be careful not to ascribe the opinions of the media to the Administration. All the comments I have seen from the Administration follow a pattern of bracing Americans for a difficult and protracted war.
Let's see where things stand in the next few days before we assess the effectiveness of the war strategy.
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