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To: FRgal4u
1) decapitation - 2) lack of command and control 3) losing control 4) shock and awe 5) massive surrenderings and 6) happy iraqis to greet us...

1) is still somewhat uncertain, but all of the other 5 have happened.

Instead of surrenders and POWs a lot of troops simply went home.

Believe me, if the Iraqis DID have effective command and control, and if the entire Iraqi regular army was actually fighting, we'd probably have about 500-1000 killed by now.

50 posted on 03/24/2003 7:58:21 PM PST by John H K
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To: John H K
gimme a break..you must have not read the news or watch tv lately..

where are the massice surrenderings?? iraq suppose to have 300K troops - only 3,000 surrender, what happen to the rest..i doubt they all go back home...

sock and awe - who are we awe here - the picture of the firebombs is creating a PR disaster for us in the Arab world..yes, the red cross said there was only one civilian dead from the bombs..but that pic - the image of baghdad under a dresden-like firebombing is what all the arabs will remember..shock and awe should be shocking and awful...there were no defections, no increase in surrenderings after the firebombs...

happy iraqis - other than that minor news clip from swafan, we hit resistance in every town we go...there were no flowers to greet us, we get bullets instead...

all the assumptions rummy based on have proved woefully wrong...still, i hope he is right at the end..but, i firmly believe he is too drunk in his own rum to see through the fog of war...
64 posted on 03/24/2003 8:07:37 PM PST by FRgal4u
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To: John H K
Instead of surrenders and POWs a lot of troops simply went home.

i disagree, there is animosity since 1991 and they arent very pleased with us...at least the more militant ones. My assumption is they are fighting, surrendering, coming out and doing potshots at our guys again and then re-surrendering, saying "Saddam bad, Americans, good...." Sent home to repeat the steps all over again.

Muslims play the game this way.

168 posted on 03/24/2003 9:31:04 PM PST by smith288 (Visit my gallery http://www.ejsmithweb.com/fr/hollywood/hollywood.php)
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To: John H K
I think the problem is 1 and 2 have NOT HAPPENED.
Saddam's regime is still running Baghdad and spewing their bile and keeping troops in line.
184 posted on 03/24/2003 10:06:53 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! Lets Roll! now!)
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