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Girl hit by 'fish odour syndrome'
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| March 15 , 2003
| Pilar Medrano Dell
Posted on 03/15/2003 5:29:54 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Seeking the truth
You nurses are all sick (and naughty too)I resemble that remark!
Great to hear from you! Greetings to Darlie!
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posted on
03/15/2003 7:42:47 AM PST
by
NautiNurse
(There's something very fishy about this story...)
To: general_re
How is it that you're constantly able to sniff out articles like this? Shucks, I jest got a nose for news.
42
posted on
03/15/2003 9:07:15 AM PST
by
aculeus
To: aculeus
Trimethylaminuria is a metabolic illness where the liver cannot metabolise trimethylamine, a chemical produced by naturally occurring intestinal bacteria properly.
I think old Pilar Medrano Dell, the writer, should be sentenced to live with someone suffering this disorder for writing such a stinking sentence.
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posted on
03/15/2003 9:13:47 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: Mamzelle
Watch your consumption of omega-3 fatty acids...(g)
They're okay. There's no choline involved.
Omega-3 fatty acids help make the blood less sticky, so it is less likely to forms clots which contribute to heart attacks. Omega-3 also helps the nervous system development and can keep the immune system from attacking the body's joints in arthritis.
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posted on
03/15/2003 9:20:05 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: aculeus
Something's fishy here. I ain't never heard of this disease before.
45
posted on
03/15/2003 9:21:09 AM PST
by
SamAdams76
(California wine tastes better - boycott French wine!)
To: I_dmc
Wonder if that beats "What crawled up your butt and died?" odor syndrome?
I don't know. Since trimethylamine is also produced by intestinal bacteria, the odors from the two disorders are probably closely related.
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posted on
03/15/2003 9:23:37 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: aruanan
Most people get theirs in the form of gellpills containing fish oil. I've talked to one enthusiastic user who switched to flaxseed oil because the fish oil made him pungent.
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posted on
03/15/2003 9:23:50 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: Mamzelle
Most people get theirs in the form of gellpills containing fish oil. I've talked to one enthusiastic user who switched to flaxseed oil because the fish oil made him pungent.
The omega-3 fatty acid could be separated from the rest of the fish oil which could contain stinky nitrogenous proteins, but it would be prohibitively expensive. It would also not entirely solve the problem since some of the fishiness comes from rancidity. The more highly unsaturated an oil, the more prone it is to becoming rancid through oxidation. The addition of vitamin E, both to the fish oil and to the diet, helps to reduce this oxidation. Here's a link to an interesting description of the process of oil extraction from various foodstuffs:
Oils: Peanut, Olive, Marine, and Bitter Almond
Marine Oils
In order to extract the oil, raw fish is placed into a continuous cooker and heated to a temperature of 95 C. This temperature is reached by heating the meat directly, or indirectly, with steam. Heating helps to coagulate proteins in the meat (Bimbo, 1990). As the proteins coagulate, the heating also helps recover the fat and water from the fish meat (Pigott, 1967).
The cooked meat is collected and conveyed to screw presses (Bimbo, 1990). The presses help to remove any remaining oil and water from the fish. This resulting liquid is called pressliquor. The pressliquor is sent to undergo a combination of decanters and separators.
Decanters are used to separate solid fish meat from the liquid. The pressliquor is pumped into cylindrical bowls and conveyers that rotate. The rotation of the decanter helps to force the solids to the outside of the bowl where they are collected. The remaining liquid continues through the process.
After decanting, the pressliquor is pumped through a separator. The high speed rotation of the separator plates result in the separation of the oil from the water.
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posted on
03/15/2003 9:46:36 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: Mamzelle
You may want to tell the following to the user of flaxseed oil:
EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) are the two principal fatty acids found in fish and are known as omega-3 fatty acids. DHA can also be obtained from other marine sources, such as algae (algal oil). EPA and DHA are polyunsaturated fats ("good" fats, as opposed to saturated fats which increase the risk of heart disease.) The body has a limited ability to manufacture both EPA and DHA by converting the essential fatty acid, alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) found in flaxseed oil, canola oil or walnuts. But this ability is lessened if the diet is too high in omega-6 fatty acids from vegetable oils from corn, sunflower, soybean or safflower.
The bottleneck is this limited ability. Simply increasing the precursor won't increase the product.
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posted on
03/15/2003 9:56:17 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: Maceman
Yes, seems like an awful lot of jokes when this little girl is truly suffering. Wow.
To: aruanan
Interesting--I've started the family on more sardines and fish, which hopefully won't have the problem of rancidity. I know of someone who's dramatically lowered her platelet, tryglycerides, bad chol, etc. through following the Syndrome X diet. (Modified Atkins, as are most new diets. They just can't stand to give him credit)
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posted on
03/15/2003 11:27:41 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: aculeus
Where's my ten-foot pole?
52
posted on
03/15/2003 11:30:24 AM PST
by
gitmo
("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
To: Admin Moderator
Is it possible to add "(4-year old)" to the front of the title to indicate that this is a sad and serious story?
Somehow I just don't find a small child's suffering very funny.
To: Mamzelle
They just can't stand to give him credit.
Go
HERE to read about the egregious reporting done by Gary Taubes about Atkins.
The very person with whom Taubes chose to end his article, Stanfords John Farquhar, was as livid as Reaven. Taubes said that Farquhar had sent Taubes "an e-mail message asking the not-entirely-rhetorical question, Can we get the low-fat proponents to apologize?" On this powerful note, the article ended.
But its Taubes whom Farquhar wants to apologize. "I was greatly offended by how Gary Taubes tricked us all into coming across as supporters of the Atkins diet," he wrote in an e-mail he broadcast to reporters and to colleagues who were stunned that Farquhar might actually hold the beliefs Taubes attributed to him. "We are against the Atkins Diet," he wrote, speaking for himself and Reaven. "I told him [Taubes] there is the minor degree of merit" to the idea that "people are getting fatter because too much emphasis is being placed on just cutting fats," Farquhar told me. But "once I gave him that opening -- bingo -- he was off and running, even though I said about six times that this is not the cause of the obesity epidemic."
As a biological scientist with a major portion of my graduate training in human nutrition/nutritional biology, I have to agree with Farquhar and the author of this article.
54
posted on
03/15/2003 12:01:01 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: NeonKnight
Lemme tell ya, men don't smell like roses either .....
55
posted on
03/15/2003 12:55:34 PM PST
by
Rainmist
To: aculeus
55 replies... well, 56... amazing.
To: aruanan
and
here's Taube's response to Fumento's critique. Interesting reading on both sides.
To: Rainmist
Lemme tell ya, men don't smell like roses either ..... Your right, we smell like fresh cut Kentucky Blue grass.
Oh...Fish heads, fish heads, rolly polly fish heads...
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posted on
03/15/2003 1:08:41 PM PST
by
unixfox
(Close the borders, problem solved !)
To: bobwoodard
and here's Taube's response to Fumento's critique. Interesting reading on both sides.
Thanks. I was wondering if that had been posted yet.
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posted on
03/15/2003 1:15:40 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: aruanan
It was THIS close! (holding thumb and forefinger one inch apart).
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posted on
03/15/2003 1:27:03 PM PST
by
Burr5
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