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Javanese Fossil Skull Provides New Insights into Ancient Humans
Scientific American ^ | 28 February 2002 | Sarah Graham

Posted on 02/28/2003 3:48:16 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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1 posted on 02/28/2003 3:48:16 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; *crevo_list; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; ...
Another day, another fossil.

[This ping list is for the evolution -- not creationism -- side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. To be added (or dropped), let me know via freepmail.]

2 posted on 02/28/2003 3:50:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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"AG 4 also presents the best look yet at a particular feature of AG. erectus's head known as the cranial base, a bony shelf behind the eyes that helps support the brain and lockbox."

3 posted on 02/28/2003 3:54:02 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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, the team found that its cranial base is surprisingly modern

Surprisingly? I guess that old reliable evo prediction algorithm failed again.

4 posted on 02/28/2003 4:00:18 AM PST by Dataman
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5 posted on 02/28/2003 4:04:57 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Dataman
Once more, you read but do not comprehend. It's surprising because this particular branch of H. Erectus is not a direct ancestor of modern humans, yet it includes a feature found in modern humans.
6 posted on 02/28/2003 4:08:17 AM PST by Junior (I want my, I want my, I want my chimpanzees)
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To: PatrickHenry
Any bets on how many posts until this topic is exiled?
7 posted on 02/28/2003 4:29:29 AM PST by Saturnalia
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Welcome!
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Liberal tap root --- weed ---evolution !
8 posted on 02/28/2003 5:38:42 AM PST by f.Christian (( + God ==Truth + love courage // LIBERTY logic + SANITY + Awakening + ))
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To: PatrickHenry
"The buzz is, a new substratum of Democrat has evolved."

"It is liberal, deviant, and incredibly boring."

"It is called a Cuomo (( fr thread // link )) -sexual."

9 posted on 02/28/2003 5:41:09 AM PST by f.Christian (( + God ==Truth + love courage // LIBERTY logic + SANITY + Awakening + ))
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To: Saturnalia
The 2nd law of thermodynamics ... evolution // liberalism === decadence (( entropy // anarchy // chaos)) !
10 posted on 02/28/2003 5:58:26 AM PST by f.Christian (( + God ==Truth + love courage // LIBERTY logic + SANITY + Awakening + ))
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11 posted on 02/28/2003 6:11:35 AM PST by js1138
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It's surprising because this particular branch of H. Erectus is not a direct ancestor of modern humans, yet it includes a feature found in modern humans.

You don't see the irony in that?

12 posted on 02/28/2003 6:36:31 AM PST by AndrewC
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You don't see the irony in that?

In convergence? Is it ironic that both you and a housecat have about a 140-degree binocular overlap in your visual fields, giving the cat depth perception and stereoscopic vision as good as any human's? Cat's not your direct ancestor either...

13 posted on 02/28/2003 6:51:24 AM PST by general_re (Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.)
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Is it ironic that both you and a housecat have about a 140-degree binocular overlap in your visual fields, giving the cat depth perception and stereoscopic vision as good as any human's? Cat's not your direct ancestor either...

But I am not the one who relies on similarities to establish a direct relationship.

14 posted on 02/28/2003 7:35:11 AM PST by AndrewC
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But I am not the one who relies on similarities to establish a direct relationship.

"Uses", not "relies on" - other evidence is also available for consideration. Woodpeckers, fruit bats, and houseflies all have wings, but I doubt you'll find anyone positing a direct relationship between any two of them.

15 posted on 02/28/2003 7:45:22 AM PST by general_re (Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the ping. From now on, I print hard copies of the article only so I don't have to read some of the idiocy which follows.
16 posted on 02/28/2003 7:59:37 AM PST by stanz
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To: AndrewC
No irony. Simply convergent evolution. Methinks you read into this something which is not there.
17 posted on 02/28/2003 8:22:10 AM PST by Junior (I want my, I want my, I want my chimpanzees)
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but I doubt you'll find anyone positing a direct relationship between any two of them.

No because we can see the actual relationships, which do not require just-so inference.

18 posted on 02/28/2003 8:29:04 AM PST by AndrewC
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Related to Australias Mungo Man?
19 posted on 02/28/2003 8:29:11 AM PST by blam
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To: Junior
No irony. Simply convergent evolution.

In contrast to divergent evolution.

20 posted on 02/28/2003 8:30:24 AM PST by AndrewC
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