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Can Star Trek Be Saved? (lighter topic alert)
TV Guide ^ | 2/03 | Nollinger

Posted on 02/25/2003 11:14:23 AM PST by pabianice

After launching at warp speed in the fall of 2001, Enterprise, the UPN prequel series designed to reenergize the aging Star Trek franchise by attracting younger viewers, is limping along on impulse power. Midway through its second season, ratings are down 24 percent from last year. "What can you say?" executive producer Brannon Braga says. "We're bummed." And in clear violation of the series's prime directive, viewership is actually skewing older.

The news is even worse at the box office. Despite good reviews and generally enthusiastic fan response, Star Trek Nemesis, the most recent — and likely final — adventure to exclusively feature the Star Trek: The Next Generation cast (more about that in a moment), took in just over $40 million, making it the lowest-grossing Trek movie by far (translation: with production costs of $ 113 million, "Nemesis" was a financial disaster).

After five live-action series, 10 feature films, stacks of book titles and Q knows how many mass-produced trinkets, has the multibillion-dollar sci-fi franchise founded by the late Gene Roddenberry lived too long to prosper?

Corporate executives maintain that a warp core breach is far from imminent. Despite its ratings woes, Enterprise is still the top-rated drama on perennially struggling UPN and is in no danger of being canceled, says network president Dawn Ostroff. "Hit shows often take years," she says.

As for Nemesis, Paramount Pictures vice-chairman and chief operating officer Rob Friedman attributes the movie's flameout to tough competition from other holiday films. "I think we probably got 'Lord of the Ring'-ed," he says of the blockbuster Two Towers sequel that opened the following week. "Would we have preferred to have another $20 million at the box office? Sure. But that doesn't foretell any concerns about the future of Trek."

Maybe not. But it doesn't take a positronic brain to recognize that droves of fans have deserted in recent years. Movie ticket sales have declined from about 21 million for First Contact (1996) to 15 million for Insurrection (1998) to less than 8 million for Nemesis. On TV, the Trek audience has been shrinking since Next Generation's peak 11 years ago, when it averaged 17.7 million viewers a week in Season 5. Today, 4.3 million people watch Enterprise.

The series may be going where no man has gone before, but some Trek fans say the producers forgot the "boldly" part — those steamy decontamination-chamber scenes with Archer (Scott Bakula) and T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) notwithstanding.

"Enterprise has potential," says Jamahl Epsicokhan, a 27-year-old Web designer who has posted Trek episode reviews at Star Trek Hypertext Online since 1994. "But it doesn't take risks." Steve Krutzler, editor of TrekWeb.com, an Internet site that gets 150,000 visitors a month, says the series "was being hyped as a radical departure, [yet] everything feels like the same Star Trek we've gotten for 15 years."

Although Braga is not ready to divulge details, he says "epic challenges... that better exploit the sense of awe and danger" are ahead for the crew. "Let's just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into," says executive producer Rick Berman, who has overseen the franchise since Roddenberry's death in 1991.

As to where the movies are headed, Berman is less certain. "I doubt because our box office fell off on Nemesis that it's going to be the end of Star Trek films," the producer says. "I can't imagine numerous other movies won't occur."

Though there have been no discussions as yet, Berman hints at one tempting scenario: combining characters from the various series in one grand adventure. "There are a lot of interesting possibilities," he says.

Berman's remarks suggest Trek is in an adjustment period; some fine-tuning is needed. "I don't think that there's any television franchise that people love to take potshots at as much," Berman says. In fact, he refuses to concede that Trek will ever run its course entirely. "Would anybody have guessed when the original series went off the air in 1969 that 34 years later it would still be part of the American mythos?" Berman says. "It's part of our lexicon."

Adds Braga: "You've got to keep an optimistic viewpoint. It's come this far, and it ain't goin' anywhere."

HOW TO FIX TREK

1. MAKE IT OBVIOUS It's cold and dark in space. Enterprise needs real peril, dread and fear so that characters are tested to within an inch of their lives. Introduce a chilling, powerful, wholly original threat that can't be vanquished in an hour. The Suliban aren't bad, but they're no Borg.

2 MAKE IT MORE REAL Let the crew make grave mistakes. Let them argue and be driven by less-than-moral impulses. Let the phaser beams rip through metal and bone. And let there be dangling emotional threads that weave through the lives of these otherwise bland characters.

3 LET CAPTAIN ARCHER BE HEROIC As written, Scott Bakula has as much commanding presence as Cap'n Crunch. Archer, like his beagle, is benign and a little too cute. He has an annoying tendency to second-guess, which trickles down to the rest of his whiny crew. Either light a fire under this laconic guy or kill him in a blaze of glory that explains why starships, planets and star systems should one day be named Archer. (And while you're at it, take out that annoying Ensign Hoshi with him.)

4 OPEN FIRE AND CLOSE THOSE PIE HOLES Enterprise should expand our belief about what is possible and transport us to realms unimagined with its ideas. But if it can't also be packed with action and adventure, move it to Lifetime. We're weary of the endless Trek babble on the bridge, the shuttlecraft, the crew quarters. Enough!

5 GET US ON THE EDGE OF OUR SEATS You shouldn't be able to figure out what the general direction and ending of any given episode is by the first 12 minutes. "Oh, here's where Hoshi overcomes her fear of failure..." "Well, it looks like Trip and that belligerent alien are going to work together to save both their hides..." Why not try some longer, unpredictable story arcs? Cliff-hangers, big and small, give a series purpose, poignancy and punch. Make us miss you this summer.

And at the movies...

It's no secret why Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (the whale tale) was a fan favorite. It had humor, nostalgia and intelligent cast interplay. Why did Nemesis leave us wanting? It zipped through the Riker-Troi wedding, a payoff fans had long awaited. Worse, the film didn't include a farewell scene for Picard and his crush, Beverly. The heart of Trek is heart, and Trek's best films tap into relationships.


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To: Bogey78O
Re: I've watched about 75% of the Voyager episodes. Sorry if you don't see it. But every episode would be like watching Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley kissing. Her character came off as fake and nonsensical.

I cannot agree with your view of Janeway or the series, so we will just agree to disagree. That's why they have horse races and poke games.


181 posted on 02/25/2003 1:49:15 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Houmatt
"Nemesis" was crap. Period. [...] I personally made a point to avoid the film during its brief theatrical release; I may not even see it when it heads to video/DVD.

I am confused. By my reckoning this means you haven't seen the film. So how do you know that it is "crap"? Maybe you are just reviewing the script here?

(Special note: I am not saying that I liked "Nemesis". My feelings about it are mixed and probably tilt to the negative side, ultimately. I don't think I would call it crap, however. And I have actually seen it. ;-)

182 posted on 02/25/2003 1:49:33 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: gbunch; Liberal Classic; ValenB4; demosthenes the elder

Thank, gbunch. I used to like Star Trek, and bought a ton of books, but the Babylon 5 is so much better.

For those who does not know, Babylon 5 was created by J. Michael Straczynski. This is one of the best quality SF I had pleasure to read and watch. The list of books here: http://worldsofjms.com/store/b5fiction.htm

From the political point of view, to connect the Babylon 5 and FreeRepublic universe:

 

1. Actor Jerry Doyle (played Michael Garibaldi on Babylon 5) had an unsuccessful run for the U.S House of Representatives for California’s 24th District in 2000 (GOP). Here is his positions on the issues: http://www.doyleforcongress.com/issues.html

 

2.

from the website http://www.isnnews.net/

ISN NEWS: THE ZOCALO TODAY
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ISN News: The Zocalo Today

 

from the section JMS speaks:  http://www.isnnews.net/zocalo/jms.shtml

 

 

Things You Don't Expect To Hear

November 25, 2002
Here is a little tidbit I found interesting -- and amusing -- from the B5 moderated newsgroup:

So I was talking to Doug Netter [produsser] this afternoon, who had in turn spoken with Bruce Boxleitner [actor playing Captain John Sheridan] earlier in the day about the year 2 DVD. In the course of that conversation, Bruce mentioned something that Doug in turn mentioned to me.

To wit:

Bruce had been at the White House about a month ago, in the company of wife Melissa Gilbert, president of the Screen Actors Guild, for a discussion with some of the functionaries there concerning acting roles moving north of the Canadian border.

As they're talking, in a long conference room, in the middle of the meeting the door oens and Karl Rove -- main strategist for the Republican Party and power behind the White House throne -- comes in. He says (paraphrased from memory) to Melissa, "I hope you'll forgive me, but I actually here to see Bruce."

He then tells Bruce, "I just wanted to tell you that I'm a big science fiction fan, and that Babylon 5 is the best science fiction television series *ever*."

Then there's a pause, and he adds....

"And the President thinks so too."

Upon hearing this, I went to lie down for a spell, but I fully expect to be back on my feet by Spring, latest.

Jms

 

3.  It is loooong, please forgive me:

September 11, 2002

 

A number of people, who were not able to get hold of ASM36, asked if I could repost the text of that issue in commemoration of the anniversary since it's pretty much unavailable now. With some modifications to make the statement more general, the text follows. It may be freely posted anywhere it may do some good.

jms

 

We interrupt our regularly scheduled program to bring you the following special bulletin.
Longitude: 74 degrees, 0 minutes, 23 seconds West.
Latitude: 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds North.
Follow the sound of sirens.
 
Some things are beyond words.
Beyond comprehension.
Beyond forgiveness.
The questions come:
 
How could you let this happen?
Why didn't you know this was coming?
 
How do you say we didn't know? We couldn't know.
We couldn't imagine.
Only madmen could contain the thought, execute the act, fly the planes.
Even those we thought our enemies are moved. Because some things surpass rivalries and borders.
Because the story of humanity is written not in towers but in tears.
In the common coin of blood and bone.
In the voice that speaks within even the worst of us, and says: This is not right.
 
Also here are those who face fire without fear or armor.
Those who step into the darkness without assurances of ever walking out again,
because they know there are others waiting in the dark.
Awaiting salvation.
Awaiting word.
Awaiting justice.
 
Ordinary men.
Ordinary women.
Made extraordinary by acts of compassion.
And courage.
And terrible sacrifice.
 
We've voted, and we're going to try to take the plane.
It's the only way to stop them hitting Washington.
I love you.
 
Ordinary men.
Ordinary women.
Refusing to surrender.
 
Ordinary men.
Ordinary women.
Refusing to accept the self-serving proclamations of holy warriors of every
stripe, who announce that somehow we had this coming.

...probably what we deserve....
All of them who have tried to secularize America...the pagans and the abortionists
and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians and the ACLU....
I point the finger in their face and I say, "You helped this happen."
 
-- it is God's will that America should fall through their iniquity and their sin --
 
We reject them both in the knowledge that our tragedy is greater than the sum
of our transgressions.
 
Bodies in freefall on the evening news.
Madness in mosques, shouting down fourteen centuries of earnest prayers,
forgetting the lessons of crusades past:
That the most harmed are the least deserving.
 
There are no words.
There are no words.
 
The death of innocents and the death of innocence.
Rage compounded upon rage. Rage enough to blot out the sun.
And the air still filled with questions.
 
Is it going to happen again?
What do I tell my children?
Why did this happen?
 
What do we tell the children?
Do we tell them the evil is a foreign face?
 
No. The evil is the thought behind the face, and it can look just like yours.
 
Do we tell them evil is tangible, with defined borders and names and geometries
and destinies?
 
No. They will have nightmares enough.
 
Perhaps we tell them that we are sorry.
Sorry that we were not able to deliver unto them the world we wished them to have.
That our eagerness to shout is not the equal of our willingness to listen.
That the burdens of distant people are the responsibility of all men and women
of conscience, or their burdens will one day become our tragedy.
 
Or perhaps we simply tell them that we love them, and that we will protect
them. That we would give our lives for theirs and do it gladly, so great is
the burden of our love.
 
In a universe of Gameboys and VCRs, it is, perhaps, an insubstantial gift. But
it is the only one that will wash away the tears and knit the wounds and make
the world a sane place to live in.
 
We could not see it coming. No one could. We could not stop it. No one could.
But we are still here. With you.
Today. Tomorrow. And the day after.
 
We live in each blow you strike for infinite justice, but always in the hope of infinite wisdom.
 
Because we live as well in the quiet turning of your considered conscience.
The voice that says all wars have innocents.
The voice that says you are a kind and a merciful people.
The voice that says do not do as they do, or the war is lost before it is even begun.
 
Do not let that knowledge be washed away in blood.
 
When you move, we will move with you. Where you go, we will go with you.
Where you are, we are in you.
 
Because the future belongs to ordinary men and ordinary women, and that future
must be built free of such acts as these, must be fought for and renewed like
fresh water.
 
Because a message must be sent to those who mistake compassion for weakness. A
message sent across six thousand years of recorded blood and struggle.
 
And the message is this:
 
Whatever our history, whatever the root of our surnames, we remain a good and
decent people, and we do not bow down and we do not give up.
 
The fire of the human spirit cannot be quenched by bomb blasts or body counts.
 
Cannot be intimidated forever into silence or drowned by tears.
 
We have endured worse before; we will bear this burden and all that come after,
because that's what ordinary men and women do. We persevere.
 
No matter what.
This has not weakened us.
It has only made us stronger.
 
In recent years we as a people have been tribalized and factionalized by a
thousand casual unkindnesses.
 
But in this we are one.
 
Flags sprout in uncommon places, the ground made fertile by tears and shared resolve.
 
We have become one in our grief.
We are now one in our determination.
One as we recover.
One as we rebuild.
 
You wanted to send a message, and in so doing you awakened us from our self involvement.
 
Message received.
 
Look for your reply in the thunder.
 
In such days as these are heroes born. The true heroes of the twenty-first century.
You, the human being singular.
You, who are nobler than you know and stronger than you think.
You, the heroes of this moment chosen out of history.
 
We stand blinded by the light of your unbroken will. Before that light, no darkness can prevail.
 
They knocked down two tall towers. In their memory, draft a covenant with your
conscience, that we will create a world in which such things need not occur.
 
A world which will not require apologies to children, but also a world whose
roads are not paved with the husks of their inalienable rights.
 
They knocked down two tall towers. Graft now their echo onto your spine.
Become girders and glass, stone and steel, so that when the world sees you, it
sees them.
 
And stand tall.
 
Stand tall.
 
Stand tall.
 
J. Michael Straczynski
 
This message is copyright © 2000 by Synthetic Worlds.

183 posted on 02/25/2003 1:49:50 PM PST by Tolik
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To: Frank_Discussion
You're missing out on some good stuff. I thought there was some great episodes at the beginning of season 6.
184 posted on 02/25/2003 1:50:49 PM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: pabianice
Can Star Trek Be Saved?

Does anybody really care? It hasn't been worth watching since Tasha Yar died.

If a series goes belly up in the deep void of space, does it make any sound?

Shalom.

185 posted on 02/25/2003 1:53:08 PM PST by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Bogey78O
I know, but I'll catch up.
186 posted on 02/25/2003 1:55:22 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (Live Long and Perspire!)
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To: AFreeBird
Nah....Disclosure was a clip episode. But it was the best clip episode you can make.

SG1archives.com
187 posted on 02/25/2003 1:56:05 PM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: clamper1797; wirestripper
Um, yes, who's the gay actor?

Some people here seem to imply Scott Bakula is gay. He's not. (And in my opinion, so what if he were?) He's married and has three kids. You can see for yourself: http://www.eonline.com/Facts/People/Bio/0,128,17731,00.html

188 posted on 02/25/2003 1:56:41 PM PST by zoeopolis
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To: Houmatt
Hire a reliable polling service (like Zogby) to conduct a nationwide poll, to find out, among other things, what the best TV episodes are, the best movies, the best novels, the best comic book stories, the best writers.

I should point out that "best" != "popular."

189 posted on 02/25/2003 1:57:03 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Sloth
You forgot one thing about Generations... Any movies is a good movie when you get to see Kirk die not once, but TWICE!
190 posted on 02/25/2003 1:59:44 PM PST by zeugma (If you use microsoft products, you are feeding the beast.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"OPEN FIRE AND CLOSE THOSE PIE HOLES"

Right! and get off your damn social soapbox with all the liberal blathering

Ditto ... where is Hans Solo when you need him?

snooker

191 posted on 02/25/2003 2:00:11 PM PST by snooker
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To: zoeopolis
Yah, that's what the they say..................Sorry, I ain't buyin the BS!
192 posted on 02/25/2003 2:00:24 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Do you have any credible evidence except gay people idolize him?
193 posted on 02/25/2003 2:02:18 PM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: wirestripper
Gay man divorces his wife and then shacks up with... another woman?
http://www.eonline.com/Facts/People/Bio/0,128,17731,00.html
Hmmm.
194 posted on 02/25/2003 2:05:16 PM PST by zoeopolis
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To: Tolik
I spent a pleasant few moments with Jerry Doyle outside the Marriott Marquis in Atlanta last year, smoking and bullsh!tting. Nice guy, definitely RofC, very real.
195 posted on 02/25/2003 2:05:54 PM PST by demosthenes the elder (slime will never cease to be slime... why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: pabianice
As for Nemesis, Paramount Pictures vice-chairman and chief operating officer Rob Friedman attributes the movie's flameout to tough competition from other holiday films. "I think we probably got 'Lord of the Ring'-ed," he says of the blockbuster Two Towers sequel that opened the following week. "Would we have preferred to have another $20 million at the box office? Sure. But that doesn't foretell any concerns about the future of Trek."

Here is problem number one. Nemesis could have gotten an extra $40 million if they had opened at Thankgiving, like they normally do, against Harry Potter. But they don't know their audience!! Harry Potter was never a major challenge to their fan-base, but Lord of the Rings encompasses their entire fan base.

Problem number two. They never kill any characters! Want to know why Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan was the best Trek film so far? They killed Spock! Not that fans wanted Spock to die, but the whole production was in your face, "Wow! Redshirts aren't the only ones who die!" kind of movie with danger and thrills the whole way through it.

Problem number three. New situations that are easy to write your way out of stink. It's a matter of "ridiculon" particles to save the Enterprise yet again! Or Picard's sheer will power to out think the villian. Give me a break!

Anyone remember Babylon 5? Remember the episode where Sheridan dove out of the lift on the station when a bomb was about to go off? Me and my friends were on the edge of our seats during the commercial because there was no way for them to save him before he hit the ground. Then Kosh "revealed" himself, every race saw him as an angel from their point of view, and flew up and grabbed him out of the air. Incredible and unforseen! Then three episodes later Kosh is killed by the "shadows" that were just starting to take on a major role. A major character killed off in the middle of a season! Is it any wonder why B5 had such a loyal following? No one knew what was going to happen, or more importantly, how the situation would be resolved.

If Star Trek can get back to being inventive and shocking (the Borg was the best thing they ever introduced, and Spock's death was incredible), the franchise will survive. If they can't get back to great storytelling, Star Trek will increasingly become a parody of itself.

196 posted on 02/25/2003 2:06:02 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Bogey78O
No, I think he is a fruit! That is enough for me.(besides the fact that a gay hollywood reporter sais the same thing)

He is not the kind of actor they need in that part. I am very dissapointed in the show.

I have discontinued watching the tripe.

198 posted on 02/25/2003 2:07:06 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Liberal Classic
My favorite B-5 quote...

"I am Susan Ivanova, Commander, daughter of Andre and Sofie Ivanoff. I am the Right Hand of Vengence. . .and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to earth, damnit. I am Death Incarnate and the last living thing you are ever going to see. God sent me."

.WAV for same at dailywav.com

199 posted on 02/25/2003 2:07:56 PM PST by zeugma (If you use microsoft products, you are feeding the beast.)
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To: zoeopolis
No need to say sorry to me.
Just wondering how you know he's gay....?
200 posted on 02/25/2003 2:09:10 PM PST by zoeopolis
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