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To: blam
I would be interesting if it it turns out that the Indians did a more thorough job of wiping out their white predecessors than a second wave of white migrants did to the Indians.

Many Indians don't much like the term "native American" anyway.
10 posted on 02/22/2003 9:22:18 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
Okay. I confess. We came and they threw spears at us and we threw them back. Our aim just happened to be a little better.

Sorry. Now can you just get over it? It was 10,000 years ago.

Many Indians don't much like the term "native American" anyway.

American is just fine. Wyandot if you want to be specific.

18 posted on 02/22/2003 9:56:22 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sometimes "peace" is another word for surrender.)
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Too bad for your little fantasy, there was NO "White" first wave. Craniometric studies on PaleoIndian remains have ONLY shown affinities to Asian, Pacific, & Native American populations. DNA studies on PaleoIndians matches them to modern Native Americans. DNA (& linguistic) studies on modern Native Americans say they've been here 20-40,000 yrs. Try reading scientific journal articles on the subject (special attention to Powell & Neves' "Cranifacial Morphology of the First Americans" which proved that prior & highly disputed claims of "Caucasoid" PaleoIndians were due entirely to suspiciously consistant OBSERVER ERROR on the part of a small handfull of White scientists, or the Powell & Neves study on Kennewick Man which conclusively found he was NOT Caucasoid, let alone Caucasian). BTW, if you're thinking of Ainu.... think again, they SOLIDLY match Asians in DNA & linguistic studies. SOME craniometric studies purport minor Caucasian affinities, but ALSO match them just as close to Melanesians & Polyesians & Australian Aborigines.
48 posted on 09/22/2003 8:38:43 PM PDT by Americas
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