Tobacco is legal and pot demonized: go figure

Winnipeg Sun (Canada) ^ | February 5, 2003 | Lyn Cockburn

[Karsus]

To some of FR what people do at home does violate their rights. I have had people on FR tell me what my wife and I do at home in our bedroom violates their rights.

Go figure.

[Karsus]

While it might be shocking for you to hear this, people LIE on surveys if they think others might think less of them if they told the truth.

While only a small percentage of the population admits to watching porn it is a huge business because a lot of people buy it.

[JimRed]

Is eating a hamburger with butter on it immoral??

No, but it sure ain't KOSHER!

[4Freedom]

They lied to the pollsters? Yeah, sure.

[Karsus]

People lie to pollsters all the time.

[Karsus]

If MJ bothers you so much, why aren't you out working on getting beer/wine/strong drink banned? It harms a lot more people than MJ.

[4Freedom]

In other words, 'Pot is demonized, so alcohol and tobacco should be demonized: Go figure?' Is this what you're saying?

[4Freedom]

Alright, what percentage of the population is a bunch of lying potheads, IYOs? If it's more than 5%, what is it?

[MrLeRoy]

"relaxing marijuana prohibitions could affect the incidence of hard drug use by diminishing the stigma of drug use generally"

Pure speculation. And probably wrong, since there's already a legal mind altering drug: alcohol.

"marijuana itself can be a serious problem for those who become dependent on it."

Irrelevant to the falsity of the 'gateway theory.' (And even more true of alcohol.)

[philman_36]

What's wrong with booze is that, taken to excess, it imperils our relationships, our self-esteem, our employment and, eventually, our very souls. We become slaves to it. It takes over our lives -- and, often, our livers.
Lack of self control equates to booze having cognizance.

[Karsus]

Yes. That is the logical thing to do, is it not?

[MrLeRoy]

How can you claim the measures taken against marijuana use aren't successful when only 5% of the population admits to using pot regularly (once a month or more)?

That's an unprecedented success.

Your argument is a textbook case of the logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc; you invalidly assume that simply because the War On Pot and the 5% useage coincide, the former caused the latter.

[cinFLA]

Once again you selectively quote. You give credence to ONLY that which might support you and try to debunk all which hurts you. You are nothing but a socialist, pro-drug propagandist.

[uncbob]

Anybody wants to recommend booze over POT I suggest you go read the current thread about Teddy Kennedy's remarks on Powell's UN speech

Nah alcohol doesn't adversely affect the brain/body look what it did for Teddy

[Hemingway's Ghost]

How can you claim the measures taken against marijuana use aren't successful when only 5% of the population admits to using pot regularly (once a month or more)?

Where are you getting your figures from?

[cinFLA]

Why don't you just come out and admit you are for the legalization of all drugs including heroin, cocaine, etc. and drop the "medical marijuana" charade?

[MrLeRoy]

Once again you selectively quote.

False---I addressed everything you quoted RAND's Morrall as saying.

You [...] try to debunk all which hurts you.

And I do so successfully, more's the pity for you.

You are nothing but a socialist

That is a lie---typical for a Drug Warrior. (YOU'RE the one who wants to spend $36 billion of taxpayer money on your moralistic crusade.)

[MrLeRoy]

Why don't you just come out and admit you are for the legalization of all drugs including heroin, cocaine, etc.

When have I ever denied it?

and drop the "medical marijuana" charade?

No "charade"---I think the medical use of any substance should be decided by a doctor and his patient, and I think the recreational use of any substance should be decided by the individual.

[cinFLA]

At least you didn't deny you were a pro-drug propagandist. You are free to move to a society that allows you to destroy you mind and body. Do so and leave us in peace.