Rumored FCC changes will lead to "a decade of lawsuits" for DSL services

DSL Prime News ^ | January 30, 2003 | Dave Burstein

[jayef]

It wouldn't be BellSouth's desire to squash its competitors, now would it? Good to see you again Bogey.

[jayef]

How transparent. Competitors have brought cheaper prices to the market and have pushed the Bells to deploy technology that they have had developed for years. When did you first hear of Fast Access? I'll bet you it was after 1996. Coincidence?

[jayef]

Interesting that the Bells claim that they need deregulation to compete with Cable. Only problem is, they're not competing with Cable to provide broadband. Especially not for the high bandwidth business applications that we all know occur close to the CO where cable is not deployed (read downtown).

[jayef]

You don't know much about CLECs. My company has switches, engineers, field service personnel, buildings, trucks, etc. We lease network from BellSouth. They get paid for that. We have a NOC, install equipment, provide a range of service options, and we're building next generation networks that will someday cut Bell out of the picture. We've only been in business 5 years. About enough time to become cash positive. The Bells have enjoyed over 100 years of monopoly and have built their networks charging monopoly rents.

[Bogey78O]

Campetitors had nothign to do with that. Most people weren't on the internet prior to 1996. So what good would a high speed circuit that costs 50-60$ do to the average customer who didn't even know what the information superhighway was in 1988?

[Bogey78O]

You've obviously not kept up on cable ad practices. Because if cable isn't competing with DSL then cable companies are running a lot of ads they don't need to run.

Look, cable is classes under one FCC regulation and DSL is classed under another. YEt it's essentially the same type of service.

[jayef]

Most people weren't on the internet prior to 1996.

I'll let people judge the merits of that statement themselves. BellSouth didn't start deploying DSLAMS in earnest in my state until 1999, after we were kicking your tails in broadband deployment. I've seen your financials. They are a matter of public record.

Now BellSouth has gone to state legislatures to try a preemptive strike to take the power to regulate broadband away from state commissions. The basic argument being that your competitors are waiting around for you to deploy DSLAMS so that we can offer broadband. Oh yeah, we've made a living waiting around on BellSouth. Tell that to your retail customers who have been waiting 10 years for you to deploy the technology you already had developed.

What will be the excuse when we're offering next generation networking far ahead of you? When we deploy IP Telephony and Softswitches and dynamic routing will you run to the legislature to squash those investments as well?

[jayef]

You know that I'm not talking about residential service. I'm talking about near the CO where BellSouth has the greatest opportunity to deploy broadband to high density areas. You are NOT competing with cable in those areas. BellSouth is LYING to state legislators when they make such claims.

[highpockets]

You said

we're building next generation networks that will someday cut Bell out of the picture.

How about I make you pay for my house so once it is paid for I can burn yours down.

It is this kind of attitude that runs rampant with the personnel from the CLEC's.

Parasite.

[jayef]

I tell you what. Why don't you start providing some value to your customer, you ILEC worm. While you're at it, why don't you quit whining and start competing. Frankly, we're kicking your ass in every market you're in and your only recourse is to try and stack the rules in your favor.

Parasite? How about a 100 year old monopoly that has lived off the backs of consumers with no pressure of competition? No competitive pricing pressure? No pressure to provide quality service? No pressure to provide customer value? And guess what, it shows. Now you wanna cry because you have to face a little competitiion. Tell your sob story to someone else.

My company has spent 30 million dollars in my state alone to bring value to our customers. We have switches, trucks, equipment, technicians, a NOC, etc. We lease lines from you. That's it, and we pay a pretty penny for them.

Should the public be outraged that there are people out there renting apartments from landlords? Neither should they be outraged that I lease network elements from BellSouth.