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More Than 1,000 Historians Announce National Antiwar Network
AScribe ^ | January 23,2003 | staff writer

Posted on 01/28/2003 2:52:21 PM PST by yankeedame

Thu Jan 23 03:02:15 2003 Pacific Time

More Than 1,000 Historians Announce National Antiwar Network

CHICAGO, Jan. 23 (AScribe Newswire) -- At the 117th Annual Meeting of the American Historical Association in January, historians from more than forty colleges and universities agreed to form a new national network, "Historians Against the War." A committee was appointed to draft the following statement, which has been circulated for other historians to sign:

We historians call for a halt to the march towards war against Iraq. We are deeply concerned about the needless destruction of human life, the undermining of constitutional government in the U.S., the egregious curtailment of civil liberties and human rights at home and abroad, and the obstruction of world peace for the indefinite future.

Since that meeting, more than one thousand historians, from 250 colleges and universities in 47 states, have endorsed the HAW statement.

Immediate projects for Historians Against the War include creating a nationwide "virtual speakers bureau" to aid the growing antiwar movement, providing accurate scholarly rebuttals to the mendacious historical distortions of the Bush Administration, and reporting on the growing wave of campus activism.

Participants in the meeting and signers of the statement include many of the United States' leading historians, from Harvard, Yale, the University of Michigan, the University of Chicago, the University of Wisconsin, the University of North Carolina, Stanford, the University of California at Berkeley, and UCLA.

Professor Emeritus at Yale University, David Montgomery, a spokesman for Historians Against the War, notes that "What is most noteworthy to me about the signers of the statement is that they represent a very broad cross section of political opinion and styles of historical writing. Long-time activists, people who have done little for decades, and many others who have never been involved can be found among the signers."

A complete list of signers of the Historians Against the War statement is available at http://chnm.gmu.edu/rhr/haw1.htm.

Coverage of the founding meeting is available on the History New Network website at http://hnn.us/articles/1200.html.

For additional information on Historians Against the War, please contact Van Gosse at 717-291-4246 or vangosse@mindspring.com.

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KEYWORDS: academialist; antiamericanwar; antibush; antiwar; hawhawhaw; liberals; lovedclintonswars; peacenourlifetime; usefulidiots
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To: Sawdring
Thank you so much for the heads up and for linking the DSL! Hugs!
61 posted on 01/28/2003 8:04:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: yankeedame
LOL, it was just a matter of time before that communist front known as the AHA (led by Eric "the Red" Foner) would show their true colors.
62 posted on 01/28/2003 8:29:04 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: LS
I'll check out your new books, Larry. Thanks for letting us know about them! Have you seen Robert Sobel's work, especially his recent bio of Coolidge? If so, what do you think of it?
63 posted on 01/28/2003 8:44:16 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
I'm looking forward to the thousand historian march on Washington.

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE EXCEPT FOR PARASITIC PACIFISTS

64 posted on 01/28/2003 8:47:12 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Congressman Billybob
You're most welcome. I'm honored to do my little bitty part to help the Great Cause.
65 posted on 01/28/2003 9:02:09 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: yankeedame; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart
These "historians" are on the trash-heap of history. Not one will write a single sentence remembered past his death.
66 posted on 01/28/2003 9:14:15 PM PST by dighton
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To: jwalsh07
These parasitic parasites don't care about freedom. They only care about license -- for themselves and their cohorts. They would lick the boots of whatever despot happened to be calling the shots, just to get a piece of the "action." They're scum. And in fact, they're not even historians except for the sheepskin. They're propagandists.
67 posted on 01/28/2003 9:15:13 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: yankeedame
"Historians Against the War!" These people deny history, neither have they learned from it. Below you will find some actual Historical Justification For War With Iraq.

People talk about the "cost of war" but fail to discuss the cost of inaction. "Those who do not LEARN from history are bound to repeat it."

The nay-sayers and liberal media "talking heads" are screaming, "Why should we go to war with Iraq?" "What is the justification for taking preemptive action?" "We must not upset the apple cart in the Middle East" The answer to all of these questions is simple: History teaches us we must take action before tens, hundreds of thousands or millions of Americans die as a direct result of our inaction.

While teaching this Spring at a University in St. Petersburg, Russia I took the time to go to Piskaryovsoye Cemetery, a mass graveyard outside the city of St. Petersburg, Russia. I purposely went there as a visceral, visual reminder of what happens when people, leaders and nations of the world try to appease/make peace with or otherwise ignore madmen bent on world conquest and domination.

This site contains over 186 mass graves. I know because I took the time to count each of them and to solemnly ponder their contents. THERE ARE OVER 490,000 PEOPLE BURIED THERE! People just like you and I, people who once lived, breathed, love and dreamed of bright futures for themselves and their children. Over 900, 000 people died in the city of St. Petersburg alone (200, 000 just in Jan-Feb 1942) and MOST of them were civilians; women and children.

All of this happened because the leaders of the world, including Stalin, sought to appease a little madman who amassed weapons and an army in order to dominate his neighbors and the World, by the name of Adolph Hitler.

A week later I went to London and visited the Imperial War Museum. There, encased in glass I saw the actual Munich Pact letter signed by Hitler and Chamberlain in which Hitler "promised" in writing to end his aggression... promises always look good in writing.

Neville Chamberlain waved the letter before the English press and the world and said: "...My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is peace for our time. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep." -- Neville Chamberlain, September 30, 1938.

Europe believed his hollow promises and went back to sleep. They tried to "contain" and "appease" Hitler, the exact same advice people who ignore reality are giving us today regarding Saddam... the result; HE ATTACKED THEM ANYWAY AND 80 MILLION PEOPLE DIED IN THE PROCESS... people like you and me, people like your children, your husbands, your wives, your grandparents.

Like Hitler, Saddam has given his word and made a multitude of promises for the sole purpose of keeping us from stopping his WMD programs and his ultimate aims for aggression. The World needs to be reminded that to date HE HAS KEPT NONE OF THEM. History teaches us this lesson; if we do not deal with and stop Saddam now, the cost will be far, far greater to accomplish this in the future.

So "Why act now?" Because this is the reality of our current situation; Muslim fundamentalists all over the world have declared jihad on America. They want us (civilians, men, women and children) DEAD and are actively plotting to kill, enslave and destroy us. All of this is taking place at the same time Saddam continues to produce weapons grade Anthrax, VX gas, and hastily works on developing nukes and these other "goodies" to give to toady Muslim terrorists to use against America. A report out this week details the "worst case scenario" 3 MILLION DEAD due to the release of 250 pounds of weapons grade Anthrax in either LA or San Francisco.

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/3995198.htm

America and it's leaders and people will either learn from history or repeat it. History provides us and our Allies with all the reasons and justification we need to preemptively go to war with Iraq and to rid the world of Saddam. The only other option the is to wait until he or one of his Muslim lackeys hits us and thousands or millions die.

The appeasers advise us to "wait, for “proof” do nothing, to sit around, contain, appease and take Saddam at his word... until we are attacked, the problem is then it will be too late.

America's response must be that of G. BUSH Sr.: 'Sorry, ... NOT GONNA DO IT... WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT!"

History warns us, if we do not deal with this threat now, the next attack, Anthrax, Small pox, dirty bomb, suitcase nuke, etc... (and it is coming if we don't stop them, it is just a matter of time) will make Sept. 11th look like a picnic.

Liberals get all choked up about "innocents" getting killed in Iraq. They fail to mention that 3,000 American innocents were murdered on September 11, 01. WE ARE ALREADY AT WAR, IT IS TIME WE AS A NATION DEFEND OURSELVES.

By the way, I am not some "arm chair general" who never served but is gung-ho to send others off to war (the "straw man argument). I am a former Vietnam vet... USN 68 - 71 who served in the theater of operations. I know the cost of war, but the cost of inaction is, in this case too high to contemplate.

If you don't believe me just take a trip to Piskaryovsoye Cemetery outside of the city of St. Petersburg, Russia. You will not find any names of the dead because there are nearly a half million people buried there; just 186 plus mass graves, each containing a simple marker noting the year those interred in each grave died. This is what we can expect if we do not respond to the "clear and present danger" that Saddam and Muslim fundamentalists represent to America and it's Allies.

68 posted on 01/28/2003 9:26:03 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: dighton; aculeus; hellinahandcart
These "historians" are on the trash-heap of history. Not one will write a single sentence remembered past his death.

At least one of the signers is a former professor of mine. I couldn't agree more ;)

69 posted on 01/28/2003 9:30:52 PM PST by general_re (Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: general_re
Don't kick 'im when 'e's down, just chop 'is 'ead off.
70 posted on 01/28/2003 9:33:58 PM PST by dighton
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To: general_re
Aww, crap - three former professors of mine are on that list...
71 posted on 01/28/2003 9:38:06 PM PST by general_re (Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: dighton
"If you let me go, you may keep my friend's head for polo."
72 posted on 01/28/2003 9:40:03 PM PST by general_re (Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: Jmouse007
Thank you for your insightful analysis.

The price of failing to go to war could exceed by several fold the cost of war. Personally, I would like to see the action against Saddam/Iraq start yesterday.
73 posted on 01/28/2003 11:11:37 PM PST by exDemMom (W in '04)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"Historians against History (HAH!)"

Ha! That's great...

74 posted on 01/29/2003 4:34:23 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Bonaparte
Sobel is an excellent economic/business historian. He tends to buy a little too much (for my taste) into the "speculation" theory of the causes of the Great Depression, but he is ENTREPRENEUR-oriented, and there is no better place to start!
75 posted on 01/29/2003 5:22:21 AM PST by LS
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To: uncbob
Ain't no such animal? See the following: www.nas.org or www.thefire.org
76 posted on 01/29/2003 6:15:00 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: yankeedame
I wonder how many of the historians are plagiarists?
77 posted on 01/29/2003 6:16:46 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: DoughtyOne
Well....I guess that you mean that worthy organizations which are fighting in the trenches to defend the free speech rights of conservative professors which are under constant assault such as nas.org and thefire.org need to be shut down. Can't allow them to "speak out" against big brother!

BTW, next time you condemn any conservative public employee or professor who takes any political position, please cc it as a personal message to me. Thanks.

78 posted on 01/29/2003 6:21:09 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: LS
Nonsense! Plenty of historians supported the Kosovo and Haitian interventions. Of course, those interventions have been thrown down the memory hole by the born again conservative Wilsonians.
79 posted on 01/29/2003 6:26:18 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Wrong....a fair number of the historians who signed are libertarians and conservatives who, unlike the inconsistent freepers, opposed Clinton's Kosovo War and now oppose Bush's looming Iraq War

A "fair number"?

"conservatives"?

Another loony has given me a good laugh!

What would be nice is for you to be consistent and provide proof!

80 posted on 01/29/2003 6:38:52 AM PST by sausageseller
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