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How Many People Has Hussein Killed?
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/weekinreview/26JOHN.html ^ | January 26, 2003 | JOHN F. BURNS

Posted on 01/25/2003 9:09:56 PM PST by HAL9000

In the unlit blackness of an October night, it took a flashlight to pick them out: rust-colored butchers' hooks, 20 or more, each four or five feet long, aligned in rows along the ceiling of a large hangar-like building. In the grimmest fortress in Iraq's gulag, on the desert floor 20 miles west of Baghdad, this appeared to be the grimmest corner of all, the place of mass hangings that have been a documented part of life under Saddam Hussein.

At one end of the building at Abu Ghraib prison, a whipping wind gusted through open doors. At the far end, the flashlight picked out a windowed space that appeared to function as a control room. Baggy trousers of the kind worn by many Iraqi men were scattered at the edges of the concrete floor. Some were soiled, as if worn in the last, humiliating moments of a condemned man's life.

The United States is facing a new turning point in its plans to go to war to topple Mr. Hussein, with additional American troops heading for the Persian Gulf, while France and Germany lead the international opposition. But the pressure President Bush has applied already has created chances to peer into the darkest recesses of Iraqi life.

In the past two months, United Nations weapons inspections, mandated by American insistence that Mr. Hussein's pursuit of banned weapons be halted, have ranged widely across the country. But before this became the international community's only goal, Mr. Bush was also attacking Mr. Hussein as a murdering tyrant. It was this accusation that led the Iraqi leader to virtually empty his prisons on Oct. 20, giving Western reporters, admitted that day to Abu Ghraib, a first-hand glimpse of the slaughterhouse the country has become.

In the end, if an American-led invasion ousts Mr. Hussein, and especially if an attack is launched without convincing proof that Iraq is still harboring forbidden arms, history may judge that the stronger case was the one that needed no inspectors to confirm: that Saddam Hussein, in his 23 years in power, plunged this country into a bloodbath of medieval proportions, and exported some of that terror to his neighbors.

Reporters who were swept along with tens of thousands of near-hysterical Iraqis through Abu Ghraib's high steel gates were there because Mr. Hussein, stung by Mr. Bush's condemnation, had declared an amnesty for tens of thousands of prisoners, including many who had served long sentences for political crimes. Afterward, it emerged that little of long-term significance had changed that day. Within a month, Iraqis began to speak of wide-scale re-arrests, and officials were whispering that Abu Ghraib, which had held at least 20,000 prisoners, was filling up again.

Like other dictators who wrote bloody chapters in 20th-century history, Mr. Hussein was primed for violence by early childhood. Born into the murderous clan culture of a village that lived off piracy on the Tigris River, he was harshly beaten by a brutal stepfather. In 1959, at age 22, he made his start in politics as one of the gunmen who botched an attempt to assassinate Iraq's first military ruler, Abdel Karim Kassem.

Since then, Mr. Hussein's has been a tale of terror that scholars have compared to that of Stalin, whom the Iraqi leader is said to revere, even if his own brutalities have played out on a small scale. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people, historians have concluded. Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein's, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.

Where the comparison seems closest is in the regime's mercilessly sadistic character. Iraq has its gulag of prisons, dungeons and torture chambers ? some of them acknowledged, like Abu Ghraib, and as many more disguised as hotels, sports centers and other innocent-sounding places. It has its overlapping secret-police agencies, and its culture of betrayal, with family members denouncing each other, and offices and factories becoming hives of perfidy.

"Enemies of the state" are eliminated, and their spouses, adult children and even cousins are often tortured and killed along with them.

Mr. Hussein even uses Stalinist maxims, including what an Iraqi defector identified as one of the dictator's favorites: "If there is a person, then there is a problem. If there is no person, then there is no problem."

There are rituals to make the end as terrible as possible, not only for the victims but for those who survive. After seizing power in July 1979, Mr. Hussein handed weapons to surviving members of the ruling elite, then joined them in personally executing 22 comrades who had dared to oppose his ascent.

The terror is self-compounding, with the state's power reinforced by stories that relatives of the victims pale to tell ? of fingernail-extracting, eye-gouging, genital-shocking and bucket-drowning. Secret police rape prisoners' wives and daughters to force confessions and denunciations. There are assassinations, in Iraq and abroad, and, ultimately, the gallows, the firing squads and the pistol shots to the head.

DOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein's regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran's reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq's 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq's official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 ? surely a gross exaggeration ? but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein's forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.

Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have "disappeared" into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.

Just as in Stalin's Russia, the machinery of death is mostly invisible, except for the effects it works on those brushed by it ? in the loss of relatives and friends, and in the universal terror that others have of falling into the abyss. If anybody wants to know what terror looks like, its face is visible every day on every street of Iraq.

"Minders," the men who watch visiting reporters day and night, are supposedly drawn from among the regime's harder men. But even they break down, hands shaking, eyes brimming, voices desperate, when reporters ask ordinary Iraqis edgy questions about Mr. Hussein.

"You have killed me, and killed my family," one minder said after a photographer for The New York Times made unauthorized photographs of an exhibition of statues of the Iraqi dictator during a November visit to Baghdad's College of Fine Arts. In recent years, the inexorable nature of Iraq's horrors have been demonstrated by new campaigns bearing the special hallmark of Mr. Hussein. In 1999, a complaint about prison overcrowding led to an instruction from the Iraqi leader for a "prison cleansing" drive. This resulted, according to human rights groups, in hundreds, and possibly thousands, of executions.

Using a satanic arithmetic, prison governors worked out how many prisoners would have to be hanged to bring the numbers down to stipulated levels, even taking into account the time remaining in the inmates' sentences. As 20 and 30 prisoners at a time were executed at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, warders trailed through cities like Baghdad, "selling" exemption from execution to shocked families, according to people in Iraq who said they had spoken to relatives of those involved. Bribes of money, furniture, cars and even property titles brought only temporary stays.

MORE recently, according to Iraqis who fled to Jordan and other neighboring countries, scores of women have been executed under a new twist in a "return to faith" campaign proclaimed by Mr. Hussein. Aimed at bolstering his support across the Islamic world, the campaign led early on to a ban on drinking alcohol in public. Then, some time in the last two years, it widened to include the public killing of accused prostitutes.

Often, the executions have been carried out by the Fedayeen Saddam, a paramilitary group headed by Mr. Hussein's oldest son, 38-year-old Uday. These men, masked and clad in black, make the women kneel in busy city squares, along crowded sidewalks, or in neighborhood plots, then behead them with swords. The families of some victims have claimed they were innocent of any crime save that of criticizing Mr. Hussein.



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KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; johnfburns; saddamhussein
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To: happygrl
We may have to go to war with China someday.

I doubt this will happen,as there are too many US politicians and their families in business with the fascists that run China. Bubba-1 and Bubbette! were connected through Wal-Mart,as she used to be on the BOD there before he was elected,and Bubba-2 has his uncle Prescott in business with them and living there.

As for Iraq,there is nothing wrong with going to war with them if we HAVE to,but going to war with them for political reasons merely because we CAN is different altogether.

21 posted on 01/26/2003 5:50:32 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
War is an extension of politics.

Politics is jaw-jaw, war is bang-bang.

We've tried to get Saddam to see things our way, but...

The proof of this for either side will be the reaction of the Iraqi people. We'll see post-war whether it was a mistake or not.

22 posted on 01/26/2003 6:18:21 AM PST by happygrl (Be cheerful...it's what YOU owe to life.)
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To: TheMole
I agree - Burns is an excellent reporter. His several years of reporting from Afghanistan were remarkable.
23 posted on 01/26/2003 7:12:47 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: SkyPilot
As Shakespear said: "Foorsooth and Hark! Yea Knave is GW Bush!"

LOL! 'Specially below that picture!

24 posted on 01/26/2003 7:30:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: HAL9000
bump
25 posted on 01/26/2003 11:31:02 AM PST by Temple Owl
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To: HAL9000; *Bush Doctrine Unfold; randita; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; okie01; socal_parrot; snopercod; ..
Who would have thunk, the NYT would report something that would help Bush make the case!

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26 posted on 01/26/2003 11:50:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam!)
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To: HAL9000
Absolutely chilling!
27 posted on 01/26/2003 11:58:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam!)
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To: Momaw Nadon
ping!
28 posted on 01/26/2003 12:00:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Attack on Iraq Betting Pool
29 posted on 01/26/2003 12:11:25 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: happygrl
We should go to war against Iraq for the threat he poses to us. The above story is just details.

HorseHillary! We are going to war against Iraq to keep Bubba-2's poll numbers high,and to protect Saudi Arabia and Israel by fighing their war for them.

We may have to go to war with China someday.

Maybe,but I doubt it. The Chinese fascists are already business partners with too many of the US "elites" for this to be likely. There may be scattered "hits and misses" to keep the fans rooting for the home teams,but I seriously doubt a real war between us will happen.

30 posted on 01/29/2003 1:11:47 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
I would like to know why us going to war where untold thousand of innocent Iraqui people will be slaughtered

And untold hundreds of thousands more, thanks to Dubya, won't... nobody expects this war to have a high civilian toll because that's not where the action will be. We DO expect virtually all his military to defect, and we will smash Hussein & Co. like a bug within days.

31 posted on 01/29/2003 1:34:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: sneakypete

And untold hundreds of thousands more [WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED BY SADDAMN], thanks to Dubya, won't...
32 posted on 01/29/2003 1:35:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: sneakypete
Oh, and how much of the world are you willing to let this mad dog Hitler Hussein menace before you decide the USA's own hide is in enough danger to act? Quite frankly, we really haven't cared that much about the horrors internal to Iraq. We do care when the ruler of Iraq starts to brew up poxes and bombs while slavering copious foam from his jaws in gibbering hatred towards America. There's only one thing to be done with a mad dog in your back yard, and that is to shoot it dead.
33 posted on 01/29/2003 1:51:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And untold hundreds of thousands more [WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED BY SADDAMN], thanks to Dubya, won't...

Thanks for the clarification,but I understood your intent in the first post.

FWIW,I'm not one of the people who expects hundreds of thousands of civilian casualities. I also agree with your assessment that the majority of the Iraqui army will desert and surrender at the first chance they get. This does nothing to alter the fact that there will be enough "true-believers" Republican Guards to wage a serious guerilla warfare against occuping troops though,and that there WILL be US troops still there 20 years from now. This war is going to be horribly expensive in the long run,both in terms of financial waste and manpower waste.

34 posted on 01/29/2003 4:19:38 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There's only one thing to be done with a mad dog in your back yard, and that is to shoot it dead.

Iraq is in our backyard? You must think we have a REALLY big back yard!

35 posted on 01/29/2003 4:23:25 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
With WMDs that can be transported in a vial, a suitcase, or a cargo container, there's no such thing as containment.
36 posted on 01/29/2003 4:33:07 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: sneakypete
So,I guess this means you think the UN should go to war agains the US because we refuse to obey the internation Kyoto treaty,as well as the small arms prohibition?

On the one hand Bush cites the failure of Iraq to live up to UN resolutions as a justification for a US attack.

On the other Bush tells the UN that if it does not agree with him, the UN is "irrelevant".

A shining example of hipocrasy.

Regards

J.R.

37 posted on 01/29/2003 4:52:27 AM PST by NMC EXP
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To: mewzilla
With WMDs that can be transported in a vial, a suitcase, or a cargo container, there's no such thing as containment.

You're right. And since a lot of this stuff can be made by any competent chemist and all countries have chemists,I suggest we solve this problem by nuking the whole world before they have a chance to attack us. We can then finish off by rounding up all the chemists in this country,and killing them too!

38 posted on 01/29/2003 9:14:30 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: NMC EXP
A shining example of hipocrasy.

Shhhh! We're not supposed to notice that! Where would the Bush-Bots be if they had to start paying attention to minor details like that? Let them all be surprised when the UN gives the Mexican Army permission to cross into the US to "protect" Mexican illegal aliens being "abused" (arrested or detained) by US citizens. I wonder if the Bush-Bots will still take the UN's side on this when it eventually happens? I know Bubba-2 would. His goal is to make Mexico and the US one country anyhow,so all that "sovereign nation" stuff means nothing to him.

39 posted on 01/29/2003 9:18:52 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: HAL9000
SADDAM HUSSEIN’S REPRESSION OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE

UNSCR 688 (April 5, 1991) “condemns” Saddam Hussein’s repression of the Iraqi civilian population -- “the
consequences of which threaten international peace and security.” UNSCR 688 also requires Saddam
Hussein to end his repression of the Iraqi people and to allow immediate access to international
humanitarian organizations to help those in need of assistance.

Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated
these provisions and has: expanded his violence against women and children; continued his horrific torture
and execution of innocent Iraqis; continued to violate the basic human rights of the Iraqi people and has
continued to control all sources of information (including killing more than 500 journalists and other opinion
leaders in the past decade).

Saddam Hussein has also harassed humanitarian aid workers; expanded his
crimes against Muslims; he has withheld food from families that fail to offer their children to his regime; and
he has continued to subject Iraqis to unfair imprisonment.10

REFUSAL TO ADMIT HUMAN RIGHTS MONITORS

§ The UN Commission on Human Rights and the UN General Assembly issued a report that noted "with
dismay" the lack of improvement in the situation of human rights in Iraq. The report strongly criticized
the "systematic, widespread, and extremely grave violations of human rights" and of international
humanitarian law by the Iraqi Government, which it stated resulted in "all-pervasive repression and
oppression sustained by broad-based discrimination and widespread terror." The report called on the
Iraqi Government to fulfill its obligations under international human rights treaties.
§ Saddam Hussein has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors and the establishment of
independent human rights organizations.

From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the UN Special
Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.11
§ In September 2001 the Government expelled six UN humanitarian relief workers without providing any
explanation.12

VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

§ Human rights organizations and opposition groups continued to receive reports of women who suffered
from severe psychological trauma after being raped by Iraqi personnel while in custody.13
§ Former Mukhabarat member Khalid Al-Janabi reported that a Mukhabarat unit, the Technical
Operations Directorate, used rape and sexual assault in a systematic and institutionalized manner for
political purposes. The unit reportedly also videotaped the rape of female relatives of suspected
oppositionists and used the videotapes for blackmail purposes and to ensure their future cooperation.§ In June 2000, a former Iraqi general reportedly received a videotape of security forces raping a female
family member. He subsequently received a telephone call from an intelligence agent who stated that
another female relative was being held and warned him to stop speaking out against the Iraqi
Government.15

§ Iraqi security forces allegedly raped women who were captured during the Anfal Campaign and during
the occupation of Kuwait. 16

§ Amnesty International reported that, in October 2000, the Iraqi Government executed dozens of women
accused of prostitution.17

§ In May, the Iraqi Government reportedly tortured to death the mother of three Iraqi defectors for her
children’s opposition activities.18

§ Iraqi security agents reportedly decapitated numerous women and men in front of their family
members. According to Amnesty International, the victims’ heads were displayed in front of their
homes for several days.

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TORTURE
§ Iraqi security services routinely and systematically torture detainees. According to former prisoners,
torture techniques included branding, electric shocks administered to the genitals and other areas,
beating, pulling out of fingernails, burning with hot irons and blowtorches, suspension from rotating
ceiling fans, dripping acid on the skin, rape, breaking of limbs, denial of food and water, extended
solitary confinement in dark and extremely small compartments, and threats to rape or otherwise harm
family members and relatives. Evidence of such torture often was apparent when security forces
returned the mutilated bodies of torture victims to their families.20

§ According to a report received by the UN Special Rapporteur in 1998, hundreds of Kurds and other
detainees have been held without charge for close to two decades in extremely harsh conditions, and
many of them have been used as subjects in Iraq’s illegal experimental chemical and biological
weapons programs.21


§ In 2000, the authorities reportedly introduced tongue amputation as a punishment for persons who
criticize Saddam Hussein or his family, and on July 17, government authorities reportedly amputated
the tongue of a person who allegedly criticized Saddam Hussein. Authorities reportedly performed the
amputation in front of a large crowd. Similar tongue amputations also reportedly occurred.22
40 posted on 01/29/2003 9:24:59 AM PST by copycat (Ridicule Hillary!™ to someone you know TODAY!!)
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