Sen. Lieberman Opens Up Huge 14 Point Lead in New FOX News 2004 Presidential Poll

Hotline/National Journal 'Last Call' Column ^ | January 17, 2003 | Press Release

[ImphClinton]

Yes but
Everyone expects Liberman to lose against Bush. This election is just to position Hillary for 2004. The dems will be perfectly happy to add Liberman to the unsucessful VP list. Besides Hillary does not want to run with Liberman as her VP. After he loses it will be easy to not run with him. She might just run with Tipper in 2008

[dead]

Never in a million years.

McCain is a pain in the ass, but he knows that his only value to media is as a contrarian Republican who can annoy the rest of his party. If he leaves, he becomes an irrelevant centrist Democrat, of no use to anybody. Just like Jeffords.

The liberal base in the Dem party would be pretty annoyed if a relative centrist like Lieberman won the nomination. The party wouldn't further alienate their base by adding a Republican to the ticket! They'd stay home in droves.

If Lieberman wins the nomination (and I doubt he will) he would absolutely have to pick a woman or a minority (or both) to try to shore up his leftist support.

[woodyinscc]

"Liberman McCain 2004"

Lieberman will not get the nomination.

The Hildebeast is keeping all options open and knows Lieberman would never put her on his ticket if she chose to take the second slot.(clintoons control the party)

[ewing]

I can understand them being best friends, but Bradley would be a much better fit for him if McCain goes 'I'

[ewing]

Ugh. Tipper and the Hildebeast?

[F.J. Mitchell]

The first three letters in Lieberman, make him irresistable to lieberals, a form of subliminal illumination I suppose.

[Wolfstar]

At this early stage, all polls are measuring is name recognition. Lieberman is far better known than the others because he was on a national ticket just over two years ago. However, hard core Dem primary voters are pretty far to the Left. Lieberman is running as the "centrist" — even the "conservative" — Dem in the race. Only Bob Graham, if he gets in, will run more to the right (as right as a Dem can ever get and still stay a Dem).

The real news is that, even with his advantage in name recognition, Lieberman is still under 30% among the registered Dems who participated in the poll. As a group, his lesser known opponents are above 40%. To the extent that I trust any poll (which is not much), what this shows me is Lieberman is a weak front runner. And Gephardt, with his strong union support, may be the candidate to watch.

[sweetliberty]

Kerry is toast with his remarks about Iowa in play. That's okay. That has got to be one of the ugliest faces I have ever seen in the political limelight. It would hurt to have to look at it too much.

On the other hand, Lieberman, besides looking as if he is going to burst into tears at any moment, has a whining little voice that is only slightly more tolerable than fingernails on a chalkboard. Could get interesting.

[ewing]

I would veture a guess that Hildebeast would get just about 30% if she were running.

[woodyinscc]

"She might just run with Tipper in 2008"

No way! they despise each other.

What qualification does Tipper Gore have to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? Oh! excuse me I forgot she was a Democrat.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Someone must have omitted a decimal point in front of that.

[ImphClinton]

Because he is to conservative for most Democrats. They can afford to lose him. They want to preserve the other candidates and they seriously doubt (as they should) Bush will mess up and be defeatable in 04.

Now if Bush does manage to mess up then Hillary will change her mind and run but there is only a 2% chance of that happening.

[ewing]

Kerry doesn't have the 'game' for retail politics.

So only his wife's $600 Million inheritance will keep him in the race.

Edwards, however by some accounts is one of the finest retail politicans old pros can remember including Bubba.

So if he can pull the upset somewhere, he could get big mo quick.

[ewing]

I agree Hillary is a mater opportunist and will use her position to slow the White House whenever possible.

[sweetliberty]

Edwards will have to use his pretty boy looks and silvertongued lawyer skills to schmooze people. Kerry will have to depend on the loyalist Kennedy sycophants, which won't get him very far. And Gebhart is an idiot who is deluded into believing that even though he couldn't be effective as the minority leader of the house he could somehow run the country. Sounds more like another bad reality show than part of the process of choosing a competent leader.

[ewing]

Kerrys problem is that no one responds to him at eye level, a 'cold fish' and that bodes badly for a campaign.

You can have all the money in the world and folks still wont vote for him.

[ImphClinton]

You are probably right. However I am not sure they really hate each other. Just prior to her running for the Senate I happened to see her and Tipper returning from a trip on the Eastern Shore withoug either husband.

I just said this for a responce. Seeing how well she is doing in the Senate I imagine she will have her pick. But I also believe she may favor a Female VP over a make. Her ego is so strong she still won't divorce Bill even though at this point it would help her politically.

[Redleg Duke]

Ahhh! The Battle of the Ragin' Dwarfs!

[My2Cents]

2% for a nobody from Vermont is a vertible groundswell!

[Redleg Duke]

Kill da pink bear! Kill da pink bear!