Posted on 12/20/2002 6:53:34 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
CHARLOTTE -- Responding to Sen. Trent Lott's recent comments, Rep. Cass Ballenger told a newspaper he has had "segregationist feelings" himself after conflicts with a black colleague.
Ballenger, a North Carolina Republican, said former Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Ga., so provoked him that "I must I admit I had segregationist feelings."
"If I had to listen to her, I probably would have developed a little bit of a segregationist feeling," Ballenger told The Charlotte Observer in today's editions. "But I think everybody can look at my life and what I've done and say that's not true.
"I mean, she was such a bitch," he said.
McKinney, who lost her re-election bid, has an unpublished telephone number and could not be reached by The Associated Press early today for comment.
Ballenger told Charlotte radio station WBT today that his comments were "pretty stupid on my part" and that he didn't think he had segregationist feelings.
"I talk too much," Ballenger told the radio station. "In that specific case, I was trying to say that almost anybody can develop an animosity to individuals. In this particular case, I picked on Cynthia McKinney because she was what I consider less than patriotic to the United States."
Ballenger also told the newspaper some of his constituents might empathize with Lott's remarks, but nonetheless called on Lott to resign as the GOP's Senate leader.
Ballenger's Chief of Staff Dan Gurley, reached at home early today by The Associated Press, said Ballenger's comment was "not a general statement of his belief."
"There's no question in my mind that the comment there is not a reflection of his general view, it's only a reaction to the pushiness of somebody like McKinney," Gurley said. "In fact, I've seen him go out of his way to show himself as just the opposite of that."
Lott ignited a firestorm this month after praising Sen. Strom Thurmond's 1948 segregationist presidential campaign during a birthday bash for the South Carolina senator.
The Mississippi Republican has apologized and said he believes he has enough support from his colleagues to retain his job and has vowed to fight for it.
Ballenger told the Observer that Lott should "drop out of leadership but stay in the Senate."
Asked if he believes Lott is a segregationist, Ballenger said, "I'd have a hard time saying he wasn't. Basically in some areas of the South, in Charlotte and everywhere else, there are people who get rubbed the wrong way (thinking) 'We've got to bend over backwards; we've got to integrate' and things like that."
Ballenger, a senior member of the House Committee on Education, easily won a ninth term in November with 60 percent of the vote.
When told of Ballenger's remarks, Rep. Mel Watt, a black Democrat from Charlotte, said he believed race was not the main motivation for them.
"I suspect that whatever she's doing that's gnawing on him has to do more with what she's saying and how she's saying it than the fact that she's black," he said.
"I doubt it's her blackness that's annoying him, but it's probably that added factor that makes it intolerable to him, in a sense. I wonder if somebody white did and said the same thing that Cynthia McKinney is saying it would even become a part of his discussion."
It's a big part of it. Cynthia got as far as she did in politics by cultivating a public persona that could well be summed up in the phrase Black Bitch. Her abrasive in-your-face style, far more than her stand on issues, is what fired up her core-constituent voters. But for a white colleague to admit that he responded to her in exactly the way she wanted is very, very unacceptable to the PC crowd. I expect he'll end up having to apologize to her.
"I mean, she was such a bitch," he said.
I wish he would say what he really felt. LOL.
On the other hand, "racist" implies that a separation is necessary because one race is inferior or superior to another, a qualification that is absent in "segregationist."
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Plessey is by far the sounder logical argument. Brown, besides being utterly devoid of logical derivation, owes no allegiance to common law or societal precedent. It established a social doctrine out of whole cloth, and in defiance of prior arguments to the contrary.
Saying so doesn't make me a racist. Nor does support for segregation, in and of itself, make Trent Lott or Strom Thurmond one either.
Hardly. After all, Robert E. Lee was a Republican.
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It is not those of the black race who should be ashamed of her, but those of the human race. However Earthling, once our vanguard has landed and we begin the process of educating your kind into your place in our galactic empire, I expect you'll all be amused by the idea of our having geframletted Cynthia McKinney until she is fully kestorped.
Perhaps it might be televised for your viewing enjoyment and educational purposes....
Remember, we are your friends!
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Your use of the term "segregation" seems incorrect. You seem to be referring solely to the relatively recent phenomenon -- mostly seen among black students on college campuses -- often referred to as "self-segregation." That's like using the term "discrimination" to refer solely to reverse discrimination/affirmative action.
Segregation is generally understood to refer to the legally-enforced separation of the races as under the South African apartheid system or the Jim Crow laws in the old South. Segregation is neither racially neutral nor in any way related to free association and individual liberty.
For example:
"All segregation statutes are unjust because segregation distorts the soul and damages the personality. It gives the segregator a false sense of superiority and the segregated a false sense of inferiority. Segregation, to use the terminology of the Jewish philosopher Martin Buber, substitutes an "I-it" relationship for an "I-thou" relationship and ends up relegating persons to the status of things. Hence segregation is not only politically, economically and sociologically unsound, it is morally wrong and sinful. Paul Tillich has said that sin is separation. Is not segregation an existential expression of man's tragic separation, his awful estrangement, his terrible sinfulness? Thus is it that I can urge men to obey the 1954 decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong."
Martin Luther King, Letter from a Birmingham Jail.
Segregation is not the product of free association, but of its antithesis. Segregation did not come about because people freely decided to associate solely with members of their own race, but because a series of laws were expressly enacted to prevent people from freely associating with members of a different race. Apartheid systems and Jim Crow laws would be superfluous if segregation came about from free association as you imply.
Your suggestion that segregation is not in and of itself racist is eerily similar to the U.S. Supreme Court's reasoning in its long-discredited ruling in Plessy v. Ferguson from the 1890s. Plessy upheld the constitutionality a state law requiring separate railroad carriages for whites and blacks. The majority ruled that "separate but equal" facilities did not violate the 13th or 14th Amendments. In the Court's view, the law separating the two races "did not stamp the colored race with a badge or inferiority" and if such perception existed, it was not contained in the law, but in the plaintiff's decision to put such a construction upon it.
In a famous dissent, Justice Harlan pointed out that separate but equal facilities were separate in fact, but equal only in theory. In practice, separate but equal facilities were everywhere and always separate and unequal. Harlan predicted that the Plessy decision would someday be deemed as pernicious and discredited as the Court's decision in Dred Scott. Needless to say, the bloody legacy of Jim Crow and the civil rights struggles have proved Harlan right and the Plessy majority wrong about segregation.
If we assume your comments refer only to self-segregation, then I agree that it should not be the government's business if people wish to self-segregate. But I don't see how such people's attitudes could be motivated by anything other than racism or ignorance. Self-segregation is undoubtedly less odious than segregation under apartheid or Jim Crow (because of freedom vs. coercion/violence). But it is still odious to a lesser extent.
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