[driftless]

They've had decent pols ( McGovern, Carter, Dukakis) they just haven't had ones with any brains. The shrewdest Dem of the last forty years was of course Slick Willie. And he had to junk the usual liberal loser programs and co-opt a slew of conservative ones to get elected. Underneath it all was the most dishonest, opportunistic, oiliest American pol ever (of course you might know a few British ones in Clinton's category).

[MadIvan]

I don't regard any Democrat who supports partial birth abortion to be "decent". No one who is mildly acquainted with the procedure could possibly be in favour of it unless they were a moral vacuum.

Regards, Ivan