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To: Poohbah
I disagree Poohbah, there have been individuals, and a few groups of individuals that have had some correspondence about their concerns. Some have done so in a legal framework, in court. They may, or may not have received some answers along the way. Some have won in court, some have lost. But, they did not go with a formal, legal, constitutional petition for redress of grievance. That is a necessarily formal, first amendment process. I don't believe it has ever been done before.

One of the reasons that it has not been done thoroughly before is that it costs a lot of money, and it takes a great deal of tenacity. The We The People Foundation, has that. Perhaps part of the reason is that Bob is a Engineer by background, and he is very thorough. Also, he has engaged many people to assist him in this effort.

It may have something to do with the fact, that Bob is willing to listen to people of all political persuasions. Like I mentioned earlier, this is a problem for ALL Americans.
21 posted on 11/19/2002 4:53:02 PM PST by citizenx7
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To: citizenx7
I disagree Poohbah, there have been individuals, and a few groups of individuals that have had some correspondence about their concerns. Some have done so in a legal framework, in court. They may, or may not have received some answers along the way.

They most assuredly DID receive answers. Again, they didn't like those answers. I'm sure that murderers dislike the laws prohibiting murder with the same sort of ferocity as the TPers hate the Internal Revenue Code.

Some have won in court, some have lost.

You are mistaken--none have won.

But, they did not go with a formal, legal, constitutional petition for redress of grievance.

Interesting. You attach such meaning to this concept of a "formal, legal constitutional petition for redress of grievance," but there is no definition of such a process in the Constiution.

That is a necessarily formal, first amendment process.

No, it isn't, because the process isn't defined in the document. We have a process for amending the Constitution; we have a process for electing Representatives and Senators; we have a process for electing the electoral college, which in turn elects the President; but we don't have a process for a "formal, legal, constitutional redress of grievance."

I don't believe it has ever been done before.

You can't do what isn't defined. So Schulz's action is semantically void.

One of the reasons that it has not been done thoroughly before is that it costs a lot of money, and it takes a great deal of tenacity.

In other words, it's too much like work for most of the fringe whackos dodging taxes.

22 posted on 11/19/2002 5:01:31 PM PST by Poohbah
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