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Germans call Churchill a war criminal (HOLD MEIN BIER...YET AGAIN)
The Daily Telegraph ^
| November 19, 2002
| Kate Connolly
Posted on 11/18/2002 5:07:02 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Clemenza
Excessive? Nothing about the Dresden bombing was excessive. The Germans were treated far better than they treated the people they ocupied. I find this rather surprising from someone with a Polish background, considering that the Nazis killed one fourth of the Polish population. The Germans are lucky that they didn't end up the way of Carthage. That they have even the nerve to question what was done to them is beyond the pale.
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:31:42 PM PST
by
Cacique
To: Thud
ping
To: Clemenza
So was Eisenhower for that matter. So what, he didn't go around goosestepping and giving a raised arm salute or claiming he was a member of the master race. The Americans who had some German genes were improved by other native strains being mixed with theirs. The Krauts in Europe are another matter. They defended Hitler to the last, even amid the rubble. They deserved what they got and more.
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:36:25 PM PST
by
Cacique
To: Cacique
Yes. The Germans behaved disgustingly. Yes, they got a well deserved A-s kicking! My point was that while in war, you should expect "collateral damage," I know that at Dresden a disproportionate amount of the targets firebombed were non-industrial and civilian. This DOES NOT excuse the sheep-like behavior of the German people in supporting a monstrous regime, but I do not believe in excessively pummeling noncombatants. I know you and many others disagree with me on this point. So be it.
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:36:50 PM PST
by
Clemenza
To: Cacique
You aren't even CLOSE to qualifying for Mensa and you're laying down challenges of "mine is bigger than yours".
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:38:25 PM PST
by
Wissa
To: MadIvan
If genocide was the objective of Churchill Gemany would not exist today. Civilians are the producers of the arms of war. They are legitimate targets as they are the basis of the war machine.
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:47:59 PM PST
by
cpdiii
To: Wissa
Your entire contribution to this thread has been ad hominem attacks on my inteligence. You may not like my views, but I have seen nothing from you as yet indicating that you have the capacity to argue a point.
Do you have any opinions on the matter? At the very least, instead of attacking my inteligence. Why don't you present an alternative view? Show me how you can defend the election of Hitler as reich chancellor. Tell me how "Kristalnacht" was justified. Tell me what a wonderfull man Hitler was, and how the adoration and support the German people showed him was justified. Tell me how all the Germans were ignorant of the fact that the Nazis were racist anti-semites and anti slav. Yes, tell me how they were all innocent civilians who had nothing to do with what happened?
I can certainly tell that you certainly would definetly never be a member of mensa. They at least, know how to argue.
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:53:27 PM PST
by
Cacique
To: MadIvan
I hear you Ivan. My mom is from Bristol. She survived the German bombardments. They bombed Bristol every night for about two years. They made sure to hit churches and hospitals and old cathedrals and beloved places. The entire center of the city was decimated.
Germany, under Schroeder, is becoming a worry again!
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:54:25 PM PST
by
Sunsong
To: Wissa
I place my bet on Cacique.
89
posted on
11/18/2002 7:55:10 PM PST
by
cpdiii
To: Cacique
You were insulting German men and women! As a Freeper I just wanted to show you very clear, what kind of member of Human kind you are. Your suggestion to send German women as prostitutes to Afghanistan and sterilize German men would be the same, what Hitler would have done!!!!!!!!! There goes your intelligence!
90
posted on
11/18/2002 7:59:18 PM PST
by
janette
To: weegee
Mr. Bentsen knew a little bit about atomic warfare.
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posted on
11/18/2002 7:59:37 PM PST
by
TiaS
To: Cacique
Okay, I'll say that your statement that the German race should be wiped out (in post 44) shows that you are no better than the Germans who held the view that the Jews should be killed off. I'll also add that your habit of shouting by putting your posts in bold type doesn't add any weight to your prejudicial views.
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posted on
11/18/2002 8:06:55 PM PST
by
Wissa
To: janette
I did not propose that for any other people of Europe, who were the victims of the Germans. There is a distinct difference between the victims and the victimisers. Apparently the Germans have not learned their lesson and need to be taught one soon before they cause the world more grief. Aren't two World Wars which they caused enough? Besides, being concubines is an honor and far better treatment than they would have being forced to be prostitutes. Or can't you tell the difference? And no, I don't mind insulting German men and Women, they deserve it after voting that fat slob Shröder into office and publishing this drivel. My solution is far more humane that what Hitler would have come up with. You are comparing apples and oranges. Retribution and revenge is justice. What Hitler and the Germans did was an unprovoked attack. Or can't you tell the difference?
Although I admit you at least have more backbone than your pal wissen. At least you try to defend yourself.
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posted on
11/18/2002 8:13:55 PM PST
by
Cacique
To: MadIvan
I believe that William Tecumseh Sherman gave us the greatest comeback to the Germans on this one:
"War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say give them all they want."
General William T. Sherman
And as Forrest said, "That's all I got to say about that..."
Love,
THE KID
To: MadIvan
I have four times taken people to visit Dachau. The experience makes me so sick that the last two times I have been obliged to wait outside for my friends.
I have also worked for and around several Germans since I was stationed there in the early 70's. I assure you much of the generation that fought the war thinks Hitler's only problem was that he didn't finish off the Jew's.
To: Wissa
I repeat, retribution and revenge is justice. Unprovoked attack is an act that leads to it. The germans had their chance to be civilised docile people accepting their responsibility for what they did. Their answer? Aside from publishing this drivel, their blatant anti americanism and arrogant air of superiority is not a formula to win them any friends. Why should we wait for them to start Wrold War Three? Aren't two lessons already enough? Is it not better to save the world the trouble and crush the bug right now? You are not going to convince me to change my view and it is apparent that I will not change yours.
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posted on
11/18/2002 8:20:27 PM PST
by
Cacique
To: MadIvan
" Mr Friedrich claims the British government set out at the start of the Second World War to destroy as many German cities and kill as many of their inhabitants as possible. " That should be the goal of EVERY national leader who is engaged in all-out war.
To: MadIvan
Jerry's got some f**king cheek doesn't he?
My dad had a V-2 land in his street. Blew a dozen people to bits. I'll have to show this to him and see how much sympathy he can muster up for the poor downtrodden Krauts.
F**king Huns haven't changed a bit.
-ccm
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posted on
11/18/2002 8:46:30 PM PST
by
ccmay
To: ccmay
I can die happy now. I have seen it all.
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posted on
11/18/2002 8:49:32 PM PST
by
dmeara
To: BrowningBAR
It is indeed an attack on Western Civ. This is no different than the lies told against the 'white man' committing genocide against native americans. As usual, the context and pretexts for any actions are ignored.
For this blighter to ignore the Blitz of 1940 is grostesque misrepresentation of history.
The "total war" concept was practised first by Hitler. The Brits hit back any way they could.
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posted on
11/18/2002 8:53:19 PM PST
by
WOSG
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