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Draft Question

Posted on 11/13/2002 9:48:12 PM PST by yonif

Someone asked me if I would support having women drafted if indeed a draft occurred. I don't have an opinion on that matter. What do you think?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: draft; usa; usarmy

1 posted on 11/13/2002 9:48:12 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
someones gotta cook...

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(hey it's a joke)

2 posted on 11/13/2002 9:50:21 PM PST by Drango
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To: yonif
Nope. That's my vote.
3 posted on 11/13/2002 9:50:41 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: yonif
YES, but not for front line action. Those Feminists really need to eat their own words.....and by that I mean, if guys are going to be drafted, and the feminists want everything "equal" then women should be drafted, too.....just not to the front lines. IMHO. Those females who are NOT feminists could opt out (LOL - in my dreams.)
4 posted on 11/13/2002 10:04:52 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: yonif
Yes. By all means. They shouldn't have combat roles, but they should be drafted. I don't see any reason why not.
5 posted on 11/13/2002 10:24:22 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: MattAMiller
"...Yes. By all means. They shouldn't have combat roles, but they should be drafted. I don't see any reason why not.

You must not have daughters.

If women want to enlist, more power. But I would not allow my daughters to be drafted--even for non-combat roles--without a fight. Mission-creep, you know.

It's an area of discrimination for which I am thankful.

6 posted on 11/13/2002 10:36:00 PM PST by Husker8877
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To: yonif
I say "Hell No!" and keep 'em far, far away from the men who are actually doing the fighting. War is stressful and confusing enough without the ladies being involved.
7 posted on 11/13/2002 10:37:54 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: yonif
Yes, draft them. The military of today is much different than to that of "yester-years"... there are plenty of positions available outside of combat arms for them to fill and if they want in combat arms then by all means let them have a go-round.

Metarzan

8 posted on 11/13/2002 11:01:19 PM PST by METARZAN
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To: yonif
In a modern war, how would draftees be allocated? I imagine mostly to combat arms and logistics stuff. Female draftees would be barred from duty where they would be expected to see combat, so they'd all end up with the supplies. Would this force a greater proportion of male draftees into the combat roles? Would we have a sexually segregated Army -- Husband goes out to kill people and break things, come home to find Wife has prepared food and is ready to clean his weapon?
9 posted on 11/13/2002 11:29:48 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Husker8877
You must not have daughters.

You must not have sons.

I supose it is fine with you for somebody else's sons to go off and risk their lives, while your daughters stay home and continue to advance their education &/or career. Then when the men return to the work force, they are 2, 3 or 4 years behind the women of the same age.

I'm sure you are all for equal rights and equal pay for men and women as long as your neighbor's sons go off to fight to protect these rights for your daughters.

BTW I have both a daughter & sons.

10 posted on 11/14/2002 12:22:10 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: goodnesswins
Perhaps someone should notice that this "business of war" is a male generated activity...odd, considering the genitalia of women is better protected than that of men...Women are drafted into war just by the virtue of the men being drafted. The way of civilization is disrupted, thus, even children are "drafted".

Thanks guys, your contribution is great. The business of war is a pathetic tribute to humanity, an inability to generate peace and survive. A pathetic stance to force fellow man into situations unprepared, and DEMAND they give up their true religious beliefs - to practice a new kind of human sacrifice...only this time the 'god' is not Molech, or Nimrod....this time the 'god' is conveniently not named.

Once again, it appears the masses do not have a CHOICE.
11 posted on 11/14/2002 12:25:11 AM PST by Talldocs1
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To: gubamyster
There would be no point in drafting women. A draft is meant to flesh out units destined for combat. Most woment are not strong enough for combat tasks and are in fact currently in the service only because of significantly reduced physical standards.

Females in the military mean a significant number of personnel who are incapable of doing their wartime jobs, a plethora of gals out on maternity leave/reduced duties, day care centers, early releases (the majority of white females do not complete their first enlistment tour in the army), increased stress on critically short specialties, etc. etc.

The West German and Israeli militaries did just fine without females prior to the court actions which forced policy changes. To the extent that our military is doing a good job, it is in spite of rather than because of the presence of females in the ranks.

12 posted on 11/14/2002 5:44:15 AM PST by Norwell
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To: yonif
Unequivocally no.

They should be allowed to enlist, and serve in any capacity for which they are mentally and physically capable.

A civilized society should revere it's women and children, not using FORCE to task them unless there is no other means available, and given such a dire cause, one portends that at that point you wouldn't even have to ask.

13 posted on 11/14/2002 6:27:46 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: yonif
YES, absolutely, for combat roles as well...use segregated combat units similar to what the Russians did in WWII...good for the goose, good for the gander, I'd say!
14 posted on 11/14/2002 9:38:10 AM PST by notdownwidems
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To: gubamyster
I have a son too. He will not be afforded the protection, you assh*le.
15 posted on 11/15/2002 10:08:49 PM PST by Husker8877
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To: Husker8877
He will not be afforded the protection, you assh*le.

Thank you for the intelligent debate. You have really shown your tact & wit. (/sarcasm) When all else fails, resort to name calling.

16 posted on 11/15/2002 10:33:42 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: yonif
Except for an extreme and specific circumstance, a draft will never be needed. If a draft happens when it's not needed, the result will be social chaos.....Viet Nam war. If women are drafted all hell will break loose. And if a situation ever required a draft of women, it won't be needed. Women will volunteer.....assuming there is anyone left to fight.
17 posted on 11/15/2002 10:56:39 PM PST by hove
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To: yonif
There are so many factors to consider with that question, but in my own opinion the answer is no. My reasons are selfish and shallow and I am not afraid to admit it. I don't want to be drafted, and I don't want anyone I know and care about to be drafted. That includes men.
Gandhi once said that women are the epitome of love, caring and family, and that although they should be considered man's incontestable equal, they should at all costs be kept from the horrors of battle. Every part of them that was peaceful and motherly should be preserved.
Richard Zubaty stated that it is man's nature to protect women. If so, should we not then allow them to do so? And by allow, I mean by their will alone. No one should be forced to fight for anyone, for any reason.
Women should not be drafted, and neither should men. I don't understand the danger in allowing out 'enlistment quota' drop. The US is a nuclear power, which unfortunately seems to constantly get into wars we don't really need to be getting into. We didn't need to send men, or women, into Iraq with Bush Sr, we didn't need to send any in for Dubbya.
All we needed to send were some assassins, with lots of poison.
18 posted on 03/10/2004 8:42:56 AM PST by Quichi (Gandhi had it right)
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