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Sen. Leahy Slams Sen.-elect Chambliss as 'Draft Dodger' (The Fun)
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| 11/13/02
| Limbacher
Posted on 11/13/2002 2:27:19 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: MadIvan
Silent Cal was a rightous dude, alright. Pity his legacy is wasted.
To: Chemnitz
Actually, I just realized the part about it not being his grenade wasn't in the article I linked. But I did remember reading it somewhere. Anyway, between the two articles, the truth comes out.
I feel bad for Cleland leaving so much behind in 'Nam, but I feel even worse that he allows himself to be called a war hero.
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:29:43 PM PST
by
TomB
To: jbind
You keep saying that Clelland's patriotism was "implicitly" questioned. That is hogwash.
Clelland refused to support a Homeland Security bill that was not pre-approved by the federal workers' unions. That position was his right and his perogative as a Senator. He obviously put a lot of credence in the unions' position on this issue-- for whatever reason. His fellow liberal Deomcrats did the same.
These positions were a legitimate campaign issue. Clelland lost because of his liberal, out of touch positons on a number of issues. He deserved to lose and I am glad he did.
Her's what offends me: Because Clelland was badly wounded in an accident in Viet Nam, some people think he DESERVES to be in the Senate. Comparing his voting record to the beliefs of his constituents, it is obvious he never deserved the seat to start with. It has nothing to do with "patriotism."
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
from the man whos leaky lips have killed more us sodiers than saddam hussein
To: My2Cents
Long live Verbec!
(sounds like the name of a new allergy medicine)
To: Mike Fieschko
That's the one. Thanks.
To: kylaka
I heartily recommend Robert Sobel's biography of Coolidge as well. Also, there is a Calvin Coolidge Foundation:
www.calvin-coolidge.org
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:34:29 PM PST
by
MadIvan
To: Freakazoid
Silent Cal was a rightous dude, alright. Pity his legacy is wasted. With a few exceptions, namely Ike, Reagan and the present President, it's been largely downhill since Silent Cal, one of the last President who exerted a great deal of effort trying to stop the government from doing things.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:36:02 PM PST
by
MadIvan
To: VMI70
An example of double dipping would be the same person drawing military retirement and social security.Is there anything wrong with that? I pay into the social security system, have all my life. Aren't I entitled to SS as well as the military retirement I'll start drawing next year?
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:37:23 PM PST
by
ChuckHam
To: Hacksaw
Religion: Roman Catholic. That should read "Claimed Religion"... They asked, he answered.
In the context of screaming "DRAFTDODGER" I found
DOB, 1+40
St. Michael's College, B.A., 1961
Georgetown U., J.D., 1964.
more interesting. If my recollection of the pre lottery draft laws is right, his grad school deferrment was probably OK, but from 1965 to 1967 or 1968 (age 27?) old Patrick should have been right at the head of the local draft boards line. Maybe someone with a little better knowledge will confirm that.
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:39:28 PM PST
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
post 90, DOB, 1+40 was DOB 1940.
Preview next time, stupid.
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:40:20 PM PST
by
SJackson
To: MadIvan
I've been meaning to tell you that there is a little town here in Arizona named Coolidge after Calvin. I'm afraid it isn't the prettiest, most well-to-do town, but there it is.
To: Freakazoid
Verbec...The little yellow pill.
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posted on
11/13/2002 3:54:09 PM PST
by
My2Cents
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Chambliss received a medical deferment due to a knee injury. Cleland lost both legs and an arm in Vietnam.
Irony.
To: MadIvan
Vermont was also the birthplace of another Republican President, Chester Alan Arthur (1881-1885).
To: Trajan88
I'm just an old Houston Cougar, but I have to agree with you on Blue Bell Ice Cream. In the fifties, I found a way to beat the draft: Enlist.
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posted on
11/13/2002 4:11:24 PM PST
by
Hack
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"The Vermont left-winger, who will loose his chairmanship of the Senate Judiciary Committee within weeks, went on to attack Chambliss...."
Hehehehee. One of the great joys of this election is that we won't have to look at Leahy's pinched up face sitting in that chairman's seat any longer.
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posted on
11/13/2002 4:13:29 PM PST
by
Darlin'
To: jbind
Oh you must have forgotten about him learning to fly combat jets in case he was called in? Yeah, I think you did! A lot of this crap was gone over and explained. If I've heard it once, I've heard it a hundred times. He made up some time gaps in his National Guard record. Then the planes he was flying were not going to be used again. But he did serve at least 2 years. Sheesh! I wonder where people keep getting this propaganda crap?
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posted on
11/13/2002 4:21:04 PM PST
by
dsutah
To: SJackson
Patrick J. Leahy (D) of Middlesex
Incumbent - elected 1974
Born: March 31, 1940, Montpelier. So Leahy is 62. That makes him <1 year older than V.P. Cheney (and myself). It makes him slightly above the age at which one is likely to have been drafted for Viet Nam, but it would not have precluded him from volunteering if he were so inclined. I'm sure he would also criticize Cheney for not going to Viet Nam, but I wonder what his own story would show.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And I think that attacking the patriotism of one of the most decorated war heroes in our country - Leahy is such a pathetic, lying scumbag! Boy, how much do I hate liars!
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