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Sen. Leahy Slams Sen.-elect Chambliss as 'Draft Dodger' (The Fun)
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| 11/13/02
| Limbacher
Posted on 11/13/2002 2:27:19 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: SJackson
I don't think the Senator was right on the underlying remark, but Leahy's military record is not the issue. Yours is a ploy of deceptive argument. It seeks to redirect the subject and attack the speaker with a non sequitur challenge.
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11/13/2002 4:39:09 PM PST
by
middie
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To: cajun-jack
What I really like about FR is most of the posts are so well written. Most people actually punctuate clauses, use subordination, and even capitalize, where appropriate. They almost never over use ellipsis. I could almost swear most Freepers have either memorized
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To: Mike Fieschko
I have Duke's autographed book, FOX TWO. Good reading, almost as good as Yeager's.
To: middie
I don't think the Senator was right on the underlying remark, but Leahy's military record is not the issue. Yours is a ploy of deceptive argument. It seeks to redirect the subject and attack the speaker with a non sequitur challenge. Not redirecting the subject at all.
If Leahy is leveling the "draft dodger" charge at Chambliss in a public, political context based on Chambliss use of student deferments, thats fine, though I disagree with that characterization unless he did something unethical ala Clinton in obtaining them.
In fact, other than in cases of unethical behavior I think these contests of deferment vs reserves vs military journalist vs something better to do are stupid, and frankly an insult to those serving in the reserves or support positions today.
However, in the context of a personal attack by Leahy, Leahys status is a perfectly legitimate area of inquiry.
What did Chambliss do wrong? Why didnt Leahy serve after law school, several years pre lottery? Probably legitimate reasons, perhaps physical, perhaps deferments, perhaps both, maybe just something like teaching better to do. Far, far more legitimate than Chambliss, I'm sure, because if not Leahy would be exposed as a insincere hypocrite.
To: groanup
Was the grenade dropped in the Latrine and he picked it up?
To: middie
I don't think the Senator was right on the underlying remark, but Leahy's military record is not the issue. Yours is a ploy of deceptive argument. It seeks to redirect the subject and attack the speaker with a non sequitur challengeNot at all. By Leahy's dubious criteria, Leahy himself is a draft dodger.
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To: jbind
Cheny and Bush aren't much better than Clinton when it comes to draft dodging. Cheney somehow got 5 deferments and Bush didn't even show up to training Alabama or where ever it was.The bolded portion has already been proven false. Thanks for dropping the pretext, jbind. Some people on this board might not have noticed that you are a liar.
To: SJackson
Excuse me! If not serving during Viet Nam is such a big deal Mr Leahy, where were you? I went through Basic Training in 1966 with a guy who got drafted, that was 3 years older than the good senator was at the time.
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11/13/2002 5:46:24 PM PST
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c-b 1
To: c-b 1
Excuse me! If not serving during Viet Nam is such a big deal Mr Leahy, where were you? I went through Basic Training in 1966 with a guy who got drafted, that was 3 years older than the good senator was at the time.My recollection is that till the lottery went in in 70 (69?), from his graduation from law school in 64 (actually 4 or 5 months prior to graduation, earyl 64) until 67 or 68 (age 27 or 28), based on his prior deferments he would have been at the absolute front of the line? And I'll bet the JAG was shopping for draftees at the time.
I'm sure Leahy was up to something honorable, but how was it more honorable than Chambliss.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
To: ChuckHam
Absolutely not. I was simply correcting the original poster's notions of the difference between double dipping and moonlighting.
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11/14/2002 8:37:20 AM PST
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VMI70
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Leahy losing his chairmanship is SWEET.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The only draft dodger I know of in national politics is a POS rapist peddler of top secret technology to his Chinese moneymen. He is named Bill, a vermin who denounced his country from foreign soil, in between his tours behind the Iron Curtain.
Put some ice on in Pat, you rodent liar obstructionist leaker of Top Secret national security damaging traitor!
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