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To: jennyp
Nice chart. Of course this all assumes that the common ancestor exists. When you start with the result, it's not as hard to find an equation that works. As the article stated:

Biologists have addressed this problem by looking at more and more genes.

Had the single gene shown what the biologists already assumed, they would never have looked at the 50. If it had taken 100, 200 or 3000 genes, then they would have continued until they recieved the desired result.

My point is that there is a science to evolution and there is a religion. The creationists will jump on every failure of evolution as proof of creation and the evos will continue massaging the equation until the results yield the already pre-assumed outcome, which seems to be that there is no 'intelligence' of any kind in the process, and that chance, time and law are enough to yield information-enhancing mutations. Which I personally doubt.

The faith of the evo is just as great as the faith of the creationist. So great in fact, that known hoaxes and errors will continue to be presented loud and far as fact, rather than face the prospect of admitting wrong. The evo acts exactly the same way when confronted with something such as ID as the creationist does when confronted with evolution. These threads are proof of that.

78 posted on 11/15/2002 6:01:56 AM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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To: asformeandformyhouse

Nice chart. Of course this all assumes that the common ancestor exists. When you start with the result, it's not as hard to find an equation that works. As the article stated:

Biologists have addressed this problem by looking at more and more genes.

Had the single gene shown what the biologists already assumed, they would never have looked at the 50. If it had taken 100, 200 or 3000 genes, then they would have continued until they recieved the desired result.

Sure they would. The darn data keeps on coming & coming: More genes from more species keep getting added to the public databases. The mutation of individual genes is random, and some parts of chromosomes mutate faster than others, so you can find outliers for any species comparisons you examine. Creationists love outliers. They're their bread & butter. They're what convince creationists that evolution is all a big House O' Cards.

As I understand it, gene comparisons had great successes initially, but it was later that the caveats & exceptions started cropping up, throwing the molecular clock hypothesis into doubt. But as more and more genes get sequenced, the bell curves come into focus and the outliers are revealed for what they are: The thin edges of the bell curve. And lo & behold, those bell curves DO confirm the fossil record after all!

84 posted on 11/15/2002 10:16:19 PM PST by jennyp
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