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To: Coleus
I usually agree with you Coleus but this piece is BS!!!

First of all, most of the "Reagan Democrats" who supported the Great One are now DEAD! Besides, they supported Reagan largely out of support of his stance on "affirmative blacktion" (as they would call it) and his muscular anticommunism, more than any stance on abortion.

You should also know that the children of these Reagan Democrats have left the "blue collar belt" Of Essex/Union/Middlesex to enter into the white collar upper and middle class. These people (my parents, for example) are much more liberal on social issues than their parents and are "Catholics in name only." There is NO "Conservative Catholic majority" in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut or anywhere else in the northeast. States that are "Catholic" tend to be liberal.

Let's also not forget that those "Reagan Democrats" NEVER voted for a Conservative Senator or Governor. I believe Bill Bradly won a landslide for his reelection in 1984, even though Reagan carried the state. The only Republican elected from the mid-50s on to the Senate was Uber-RINO Clifford Case, by the way.

Lautenberg won an overwhelming margin of the women's vote. Why? BECAUSE WOMEN IN THE NORTHEAST ARE LARGELY ANTI-GUN, PRO-ENVIRONMENTALIST WACKO AND FOR SOCIALIZED EDUCATION! That's reality in New Jersey. A conservative, whether pro-life or pro-death, will never win in a state dominated by overeducated elitist upper class liberal snobs, ex-Manhattanites, union goons, ghetto blacks and immigrants.

56 posted on 11/07/2002 9:15:36 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza
We'll talk about it over lunch some time :^)

Anyway, the campaign, once again, failed the white, middle- to-upper, middle-class male, whose main concern is keeping his earnings, ie. tax issues, and the campaign, as I explained in other posts, failed to elicit any kind of tax plan, i.e. capital gains cuts (short and long term), tuition tax credits, reducing airline taxes and gas taxes, lowering the marginal rate and making Bush's tax cuts permanent.

Did he ever call the Louse a LEFT WING LIBERAL?? RADICAL??? OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE NJ VOTER???? ANTI-FAMILY???? etc.
57 posted on 11/07/2002 9:32:56 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Clemenza
...will never win in a state dominated by overeducated elitist upper class liberal snobs, ex-Manhattanites, union goons, ghetto blacks and immigrants.

I agree, and no one's mentioned crooked businesses, Atlantic City for example, machine dominated cities like Newark, Trenton and Camden, and a major portion of the media.

Curious: most of the newspapers endorsed the Lout. I heard talk that the Times of Trenton had planned to endorse Forrester. Their endorsement of Lout came as a shock. I heard that they changed their endorsement after meeting the candidates; they were so impressed with Lout, they said.

No, I don't buy it either. I keep turning it over in my mind:
Now, I know that the Times is part of a conglomerate owned by Newhouse.The Star-Ledger is part of that conglomerate too.
I wonder...

62 posted on 11/07/2002 9:48:05 PM PST by tsomer
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