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US sniper may be linked to Bin Laden (DC SNIPER ALERT)
The Evening Standard ^
| October 14, 2002
| James Langton
Posted on 10/14/2002 2:44:20 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: KsSunflower
This shooting of a child, I believe, would be out of character for an American sniper I think so too. Although a psychopathic looney might do so, the Islamic warrior could easily rationalize this from the constant barrage of Palestinian propaganda saying the US enables Israel to kill Palestinian children, etc.
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10/14/2002 8:24:18 AM PDT
by
Sender
To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
True. But what if the owner of the truck doesn't even know his truck is being used? We need to do a little mental experiment here. Suppose you own a business that operates this kind of truck. Now 10 people have been shot and the police announce they are looking for a truck like one of yours. Are you not going to inspect them? Are you not going to consider where they were at the time of the shootings? And who was driving?
Let's say you have a dozen or so employees. Are all of them going to be so deficient in curiosity that they don't compare notes as to where they were at the time of the shootings?
I believe there are at least three people involved, so that each has an alibi for at least one shooting. In my mind this makes it more likely to be organized terrorism.
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10/14/2002 8:24:18 AM PDT
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js1138
To: KsSunflower
I think, however, this is one possible theory to explore and isn't that what this is, a discussion thread on the possible explanations?I agree with you. The only thing that annoys me is the argument about the text of the letter as proof of their being AQ terrorists. I keep posting the same link over and over again but some people keep going on and on with it. If they're AQ, it won't be because of the message. That's all I'm saying. And I agree, we need to keep an open mind. I try to.
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10/14/2002 8:25:00 AM PDT
by
Elenya
To: Sender
This shooting of a child, I believe, would be out of character for an American sniper I think so too. Although a psychopathic looney might do so, the Islamic warrior could easily rationalize this from the constant barrage of Palestinian propaganda saying the US enables Israel to kill Palestinian children, etc.
I heard on one of the 911 tv shows that the religious gurus of al-quaeda had long discussions of this. Basically they decided they could kill everyone and god will sort it out.
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10/14/2002 8:28:45 AM PDT
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js1138
To: Prodigal Son
As I have said in earlier posts, even with in the criminal element..in prisons, there is a line drawn when it comes to crimes against children. This suggests that, culturally, the harming of children is very taboo, unless you have a certain propensity, for whatever reason to specifially target children.
There seems to be very little crossover, ie., cases in which a serial killer targets random adults and who also targets young children.
To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Whoever it is, I'd bet a paycheck that it's NOT two kids on Ritalin with nothing better to do. These are professionals on a military mission.
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10/14/2002 8:31:15 AM PDT
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Sender
To: aristeides
I didn't realize the VA counties did as well -- so that would have been before any shooting even occurred in VA.
To: KsSunflower
Killing young children is NOT TABOO for younger criminals. Most children who are shot and killed by people are done so by kids in their teens and even early 20's. They don't have any taboos on who they kill. There are NO taboos nowadays.
To: freeperfromnj
No, that was last Friday, three days ago, after the most recent shooting.
To: thedugal
Nor would a devout Muslim patronize an infidel strip club. But that didn't stop Muhammed Atta.Probably gave Atta more motivation to kill the filthy degenerate infidels. - Tom
To: freeperfromnj
I didn't realize the VA counties did as well -- so that would have been before any shooting even occurred in VA.I would think this would be standard procedure around a metropolitan area. I live not far from K.C. This bi-state city, like any major city and D.C., has a perimeter highway. There is no distinction between Mo and KS should there be an Amber Alert, etc. I would guess it is the same around DC.
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Lantos would be more inclined to suuuuuiiiciiiiiiiide, as Rush would say!
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To: aristeides
I agree, just thinking of possibilities... It also greatly depends how far you are from the target.
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10/14/2002 8:35:38 AM PDT
by
DB
To: poppyseed
Allow me to clarify -- either port cities or cities near the ocean. If this were happening in Montana (uni-bomber) or in Des Moines, it wouldn't be as likely to be Arab terrorists.
To: Prodigal Son
I completely agree with you about the fact he was sending a message to the police by shooting the child....I'll respond to the rest of your post a little later....I've got some stuff I've got to do.
To: js1138
You could be right. But the employees wouldn't have to know the truck was used by the kids. But you're right, it would be more complicated. I myself prefer my other hypothesis: the older truck being garaged somewhere is much more plausible. If the father's alibi was checked, he was cleared.
But everything changed this weekend with the composite photo and specific details about the truck. By now the father/owner would have to KNOW it's his truck and start suspecting something. What would the brothers do? Run away? Kill their parents? Who knows? One thing for sure: if the truck is being used again, it rules out the older kids theory IMO. I would see it as an in your face politically motivated terrorist attack.
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10/14/2002 8:38:55 AM PDT
by
Elenya
To: areafiftyone
Killing young children is NOT TABOO for younger criminals. Most children who are shot and killed by people are done so by kids in their teens and even early 20's. They don't have any taboos on who they kill. There are NO taboos nowadays.I agree with you regarding younger killers. I guess I dismiss this theory because of the expertise of the nature of the crime. I find it difficult to believe that the sniper(s) is a young person. I guess I just think that a person young enough to not care about targeting a child would not be capable of the sophistication and expertise of this particular series of crimes. But that's just my feeling, I certainly could be wrong, thus throwing off my argument.
To: nicmarlo
it seems that we are considering if it was EITHER a home-grown nutcase OR an islaminazi. Could it not be a home grown nutcase that happens to be a rabid moose limb?
To: KsSunflower
That's the problem, I don't have image hosting and need someone who has it to post it here for me. All I have is a jpg file that I took with my camera. If I could send it to someone who has image, and can assign an address to it, then it could be posted here. I assume it is still not possible to upload to FR - I haven't been around for a while.
To: 4Freedom
"One of the video tapes our military captured in Afghanistan gives instruction to would-be terrorists on exactly this type of operation."Another possibility is that somebody who is against our war on terror was inspired by the little information reported to the public about the tape...and came up with this "psycho sniper" thing.
There's a good chance the person we're looking for is not white.
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