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Public image 'shattered,' says Moss (BOO HOO!! ALERT)
Star Tribune ^ | 9/27/02 | Kevin Seifert and Randy Furst

Posted on 09/27/2002 9:28:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:37:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Standing behind a lectern Thursday, his words and visage relayed nationally, Randy Moss morphed into everything he shuns on the football field: nervous, vulnerable and humble.

The Vikings receiver acknowledged he is struggling to come to grips with a public image he said was "shattered" and nearly impossible to salvage following his arrest Tuesday for a Minneapolis traffic incident. During a rambling, nine-minute address in which he apologized to Michael Jordan, among others, Moss said: "I am human. I am a man. I do take care of my responsibilities and I stand up for my actions.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: randymoss; trafficcontrol; vikings
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To: HamiltonJay
This man is the epitomy of "THUG"

For starters it was not an officer.
Not that would change your opinion.

21 posted on 09/27/2002 3:48:46 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Randy Moss will eventually completely self-destruct, probably when he wraps his Lexus around a telephone pole after a night of heavy drinking and drugs.

Good God, people!
Someone want to explain why everyone here wants for his actions to be poor and punishment unmerciful?

22 posted on 09/27/2002 3:52:03 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
The guy is bent on being a dirtbag. And somehow that's my fault? I'm just hoping he doesn't take anybody with him when he finally snuffs it.
23 posted on 09/27/2002 4:12:20 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The guy is bent on being a dirtbag.

No, I think you are bent on seeing him as a dirtbag.

24 posted on 09/27/2002 10:02:16 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
He sure looks like an upstanding citizen to me:

Pro Bowl receiver Randy Moss is getting fined a second time for abuse of game officials; this time $40,000 for squirting a water bottle at an official. The NFL said Thursday the latest fine resulted from Moss' conduct in the Minnesota Vikings' 49-37 loss to the St. Louis Rams in an NFC divisional playoff game Sunday. The league also confirmed Thursday that it fined Moss $10,000 earlier for excessive verbal abuse. The lanky wide receiver, standing near the Minnesota bench during the fourth quarter at the Trans World Dome in St. Louis, squirted liquid from the bottle at field judge Jim Saracino following an incomplete pass intended for him. Vikings spokesman Bob Hagan said the bottle most likely contained water. The St. Louis fine was high because it was the second violation this year against Moss for abuse of game officials, the league said. The amount for a second offense is up to the NFL commissioner. Moss was fined $10,000 for excessive verbal abuse of side judge Larry Rose during a game against the Chicago Bears on Nov. 14. In that game, Moss was flagged after Cris Carter caught his third touchdown of the day and Moss continued to argue with an official about a call on the previous play. Moss acknowledged the squirting after the game, but has said little about it. ``There were some things going on,'' Moss said after the game. ``I don't really want to talk about it.''
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news/ap/20000121/ap-vikings-mossfined.html

On Saturday, Moss went into freefall, slipping to the No. 21 pick in the NFL draft. "The past had a lot to do with it,'' Moss said, in a marvelous understatement. He is an imposing 6-foot-5, 211 pounds. He has breathtaking speed; he was recently timed at 4.28 seconds in a 40-yard dash. There are some other statistics worth noting, numbers that made those NFL scouts shiver. Three, for instance. As in the number of colleges Moss has been associated with in two formal seasons: Marshall, Notre Dame (where his scholarship was revoked) and Florida State. Two. As in the number of battery charges he has faced. One was a conviction, the other a misdemeanor domestic battery charge in a dispute with the mother of his child. One. As in a positive marijuana charge. These are, as Moss took great pains to point out in his interviews with NFL teams over the past few months, events of the past. And then, at the NFL's scouting combine in Indianapolis, some of the baggage, some of the bile in his background, leaked out again. Moss was in a sporting goods store, when he noticed there weren't any Marshall caps in stock. He cursed out the store manager. Several league scouts who witnessed the outburst reported it to their teams.
http://espn.go.com/gen/columns/garber/00667734.html

The potential reward in selecting Moss in the April 18-19 draft is enormous, but so is the risk. Never did the risk look greater than last week, when the Marshall wide receiver passed up a precious opportunity to erase doubts, showcase his phenomenal athleticism and sell himself at the NFL's scouting combine. He had been scheduled to participate, but he canceled his trip to Indianapolis the day the event began because, according to his agent, an abscessed wisdom tooth flared up and forced him to have six teeth removed. If almost any other player had been a last-minute no-show, it wouldn't have been a big deal. But this was the talk of the combine because teams had more questions about Moss than any other player in the draft. And now they have even more. Moss has made a series of bad decisions in his life. He spent 30 days in jail for battery. He was arrested for allegedly choking a girlfriend. He tested positive for marijuana once, and he was in the same car with a friend who was arrested for possession another time. One scout says he watched Moss "quit and walk off the field" against Miami of Ohio because "a midget corner who couldn't run or cover was pressing him."
http://share.sportingnews.com/voices/dan_pompei/19980209.html

Minnesota Vikings star receiver Randy Moss was asked Thursday to pay restitution for a crime he committed while in high school. Ernest Roy Johnson, who was beaten by Moss and another student at Dupont High School in 1995, filed a motion in Kanawha County Circuit Court saying a judge never followed through on a promise to make Moss pay. Johnson was hospitalized with injuries to his spleen, liver and kidney and suffered a concussion. He spent some time in an intensive care unit. Police and school officials at the time said the fight was racially motivated and concerned a slur written on a desk. Moss and the other student charged are black and Johnson is white. Moss later publicly apologized for the fight. He pleaded guilty to battery and was placed on probation. Moss lost a scholarship to Notre Dame because of the fight. While on probation, he admitted to smoking marijuana and was then kicked off Florida State's football team.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/1999/1021/126056.html

Minnesota receiver Randy Moss was fined $25,000 by the NFL on Thursday for making contact with an official Sunday in the Vikings' 41-13 loss to Tampa Bay. Moss said he was trying to get field judge Lloyd McPeters' attention when he grabbed the official's arm. Moss was ejected with 1:54 remaining in the game. Moss also will have to pay $15,000 as part of an agreement he made after last season. He was fined $40,000 for squirting an official with a water bottle in the Vikings' NFC divisional playoff game against St. Louis last season, but that penalty was reduced to $25,000 on the condition that Moss have no further problems with officials. Moss agreed to pay the remaining $15,000 if he had any other fines involving referees. Moss also was fined $10,000 last November for abusing an official in Chicago.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news/ap/20001102/ap-vikings-moss.html

After the Vikings were flogged 41-0 in the NFC Championship Game, Randy Moss, famous for catching passes, launched a few missiles. He called out coach Dennis Green, saying that the team wasn't prepared. He complained about his role -- or lack thereof -- in the offense. He questioned the desire and commitment of his teammates. Funny, those same teammates could say the same thing about him. It's convenient to let Moss' babble go, excusing it as an in-the-heat-of-the-embarrassment remark. It's even more acceptable to wink at his tongue, given his enormous talent. Listen, Moss had every right to be angry after the Vikings' most humiliating defeat not involving Roman numerals. However, it's one thing to be volatile. It's quite another to be hypocritical. Moss' fine whine is absurd when you consider his actions Sunday. For starters, according to a CBS sideline reporter, the Pro Bowl receiver went Eminem on a security guard for failing to let some of his friends on the field. As pointed out by broadcaster John Madden, Moss made a habit of not running hard on plays that weren't called for him. This type of effort should be intolerable. Unfortunately, it's repetitive. Earlier in the year, it was noticed by ESPN's Merril Hoge that Moss wasn't exactly searching out an oxygen mask following a Vikings series. Moss complained about the criticism, only to cop to the charge in a magazine article recently.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/columns/psx/20010117/troyerencksnflroundu.html

Vikings receiver Randy Moss was fined $10,000 by the NFL on Friday for taunting. Moss drew a 15-yard penalty when he twirled on his way into the end zone on a 25-yard touchdown catch in the second quarter of Minnesota's 28-16 victory over the New York Giants on Monday. Moss probably will appeal the fine, according to his agent, Dante DiTrapano. Moss was fined $5,000 for taunting against Green Bay on Oct. 21.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news/ap/20011123/ap-vikings-mossfined.html

The Minnesota Vikings, who have been criticized for failing to control wide receiver Randy Moss, fined him $15,000 for verbally abusing a group of corporate sponsors on a team bus. Moss was fined Nov. 12, the day after a 48-17 loss at Philadelphia, but the Vikings didn't announce the fine then, and coach Dennis Green declined to confirm it on Thursday. The Star Tribune reported that Moss was upset to find the seat he wanted occupied by a sponsor, and raised his voice when the person didn't move immediately. The AP source said the sponsor complained to owner Red McCombs, who directed Green to do something about the behavior. The Vikings, like most other NFL teams, typically invite to road games top executives of the companies that advertise with them. Moss has been fined $20,000 by the NFL this season, twice for taunting and once for wearing an unapproved cap on the sideline during a preseason game. Before that, Moss was fined $10,000 in November 1999 for verbal abuse of a side judge; $25,000 in January 2000 for squirting liquid on a field judge; and $40,000 in October 2000 for making contact with an official.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2001/1213/1295121.html

25 posted on 09/28/2002 7:09:28 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: NormsRevenge
Moss initially spoke vaguely about his own possible drug use, saying: "I think that the NFL knows what Randy Moss has done with marijuana, and I think the NFL knows what Randy Moss does with marijuana, however you want to put it. The NFL does not allow marijuana, so I try my very best to stay within the rules."

Asked later if he has ever run into a problem after a drug test, Moss said: "Hell no. . . . They know all the tests that have come back are clean. I take drug tests just like any other athlete in the NFL. They don't give me special treatment."

"All the tests have come back clean." Well that clinches it for me.

Is it just me, or does this remind anyone else of the way a former president used to answer questions?

26 posted on 09/28/2002 7:27:22 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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To: NormsRevenge
Public imagine, my eye. This guy [Moss] was kicked out of Florida State for cryin' out loud. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get the boot from FL St? I've known of date rapists, drug dealers, and shoplifters to have made it through 4 years with the Seminoles, so you can imagine what Moss must've done. This guy is, was, and most likely always will be .....bad news.
27 posted on 09/28/2002 7:35:28 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
When the first name of the guy throwing the ball to you is Dante, You know you're already behind the 8-ball.. ;-)
28 posted on 09/28/2002 8:59:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
He sure looks like an upstanding citizen to me:

Your big dumb post leads with water squirting. Case closed.

29 posted on 10/01/2002 9:40:32 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't water it down and use large print like so many of the newspapers today that are geared towards the many "adults" who read on a 4th grade level. I made my case, deal with it. I can't help it if you didn't bother to read the parts about Randy's high fines for his repeated abuse of game officials and cussing-out of store owners and corporate league sponsors. (That is pretty much peanuts actually, but it provides a look at the lack of discipline and childish emotional outbursts from a multi-millionaire "professional" who can't step up and act like one.)

I guess the part about Randy's Notre Dame scholarship being revoked because he beat a kid badly enough that he had to spend time in intensive care is irrelevent, too. I can't help it if you didn't read about his numerous assault and battery charges that netted him jail time, including the time he choked the mother of his child. And I guess his arrests for marijuana possession, getting kicked off Florida State's football team for smoking grass, and positive NFL drug tests are nothing, too.

If you want to look the other way, no problem. But don't pop off to me, little man, especially when you can't get past the first paragraph. I'm sorry the reading was too long and too advanced for you. What's ironic here is that if I hadn't shown you a mountain of evidence, you would have told me that I have nothing and you would have taunted me to show you web links as evidence.

Poor Randy is such a victim. I wish you better luck on your next debate because you just lost your ass.

30 posted on 10/02/2002 4:37:05 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Go read your own posts. You are wrong.
Too late to act smart. You a Packer fan?
31 posted on 10/02/2002 10:31:24 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Q: What does Randy Moss call a traffic cop?

A: A hood ornament.

32 posted on 10/04/2002 4:50:15 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Just for the record, I actually liked your long post. I guess I am not keeping up with the NFL because I haven't heard any of this. I watch FNC most of the time, and when I do happen to catch a game, it is usually after the pre-game shows. Guys like Moss is one of the reasons I slowed down my sports fix starting some years back. After Larry Bird retired, I stopped paying attention to the NBA. When the Redskins started their losing slide back in 93, I watched less and less football.

What's really sad, in my case, is that when I was younger, I loved to play basketball. Really, really loved to play the game. I was pretty good, especially my defense. I would fantasize some times what it would be like to play in the pros, to play against or with guys like Bird. I am six three but never played the game in school or in any organized setting; the vast majority of my playing was street ball. And there are probably thousands of guys like me out there, wishing they had the enourmous talent the guys in the pros have to play the game at that level. Hell, just to sit on the bench as a backup would be good enough for me. At least I could say I played the game at the highest level. Then you have guys like Iverson and Moss, who take it all for granted. It is such a shame.

33 posted on 10/04/2002 5:38:23 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: Rye
You make one heck of a good point. Randy wasn't kicked out of St. Mary's Bible College, he was kicked out of Florida State. For a ballplayer, getting kicked out of there requires real effort.
34 posted on 10/04/2002 4:16:10 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Have you ever been in a...Turkish prison?
35 posted on 10/04/2002 4:19:38 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Say...do you like movies about gladiators?
36 posted on 10/04/2002 4:25:32 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Say, have you ever seen a grown man...awwww, I can't finish!
37 posted on 10/04/2002 4:39:16 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen
Understood.

So, did you ever hang out in a gymnasium locker room?

38 posted on 10/04/2002 5:26:57 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
What does Randy Moss call a traffic cop? >/i>

STILL distorting the facts? It wasn't a cop. ;)

39 posted on 10/04/2002 11:03:46 PM PDT by PRND21
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