Spanking: Discipline or violence

Wyoming Tribune-Eagle ^ | 23 Sep | Ilene Olson

[Marie]

I totally agree with you, but there are children who do not respond to tone of voice or reason. They are only concerned about their own hides. Kids need to be taken on a case-by-case basis.

[Marie]

It depends on the child. At least A, maybe A and C.

You can never give C without A.

[wardaddy]

You are lucky. Some children are easy...some are not.

[wardaddy]

You are wise for 20 if you already realize that....for the most part.

[wardaddy]

My two daughters could be reasoned with....actually "convinced quickly" is a better phrase, you don't reason with 2-5 year olds. A stern glance or maybe a threat was usually enough. Together they may have been swatted with a hand on their bottom less than 10 times in their lives.

My 2.5 year old manchild has a will that is something to be amazed at. I wish I could reason with him in my dreams. Spanking is the ONLY thing that will get him to behave or stop doing something that may hurt him or someone else. He can turn from lovable cuddler to Jack Nicholson in the Shining rather quickly. Power he understands. Love as well. A modest butt spanking never hurt anyone permanently except those born quite fragile either physically or emotionally.

JMHO. Kudos to all you brave souls who manange without spanking particularly a manchild. You are all a better man than I.

[wardaddy]

They ignore because they are either afraid or they are trying the "silent reasoning" approach...lol

[wardaddy]

BTTT....damn straight ....everyone was more well mannered then.

Have you read any of Dobson's books on this subject?

[wardaddy]

BTTT

[wardaddy]

You're Jewish and you spanked?

I salute you! When I lived in Manhattan, nearly all the Jews I knew with kids abhored spanking. Their kids were very indulged. Maybe it was just a Manhhattan Syndrome.

[wardaddy]

Dobson also says you should have an implement of discipline after the toddler years.

I spank. I'm reluctant to use a belt if need be when he is older. I never used anything but my hand on my girls...rarely, they simply didn't need it. Ping pong paddles used to be in frequent use when I was a boy, of course back then we didn't have all this touchy feely stuff about spanking. Everyone was spanked or worse...except maybe really meek little girls or very sissy little boys.

[wardaddy]

You could offer to help the frustrated mom with her grocery bags while she tends to the business of dealing with the hellion.

I would never interfere beyond that unless the child has pulled a butcher knife off the rack or something of an emergency nature like that.

[wardaddy]

Your honesty is refreshing. Many of the well meaning pacifists on this thread have probably never raised a Tasmanian Devil. When I had my daughters, I thought it was so easy....how couldn't anyone not control their children.

LOL...G-d had a big suprise in store for me. Another manchild is due anytime between now and November as well.

Pray for me....I'm only sort of joking.

[wardaddy]

Bump to you mom.

[wardaddy]

Nice reply. I couldn't agree more.

[wardaddy]

You are very right....like bullseye right.

[wardaddy]

Good for you!

[wardaddy]

Your son and mine must share notes...lol

[wardaddy]

It's been a nice thread by myself....lol...I'm done, I feel better now.

[Marie]

I always say that my daughter made me a mother, but my son made me a Muth-ah! ;-)

I remember sitting one relaxed evening with my husband while our daughter played quietly with her toys. She was almost a year old. I actually said, "You know, honey, this parenting thing isn't so hard. I think we're ready to have another baby." He looked at our daughter, smiled and said, "Yeah, I think we're ready. Parenting really is easier than I thought it would be."

Bwhahahahaha!!!!!!

Ten months later... here comes my son. He's like Tigger, only with more bounce! LOL

[savedbygrace]

When my girl was little, the shoe stores gave out balloons on plasticised rope-sticks. Those were great as a rod. Very flexible, not too thick, and they didn't get brittle with age. My second choice was an appropriately sized branch from a tree. Do file off the rough places, though.

I would never use my hands to hit a child. Never.

And I would never use a belt, or anything other than what God tells us to use. A rod.

A rod will never leave any lasting injuries, no matter how hard you hit with it (as long as you only hit on the fleshy part of the buttocks.)

Get a copy of Fugate's book, What the Bible Says about Child Training. He makes a great deal of sense and lays out the entire plan for child training, not just the part about the rod.