How Many Did Stalin Murder?

PRAVDA.Ru ^ | Sep, 23 2002 | Anna Radygina

[Jasonconley]

St.Petersburg law enforcement officers discovered a very sensational find, which is most likely yet another mass burial situated near the Russia’s northern capital. Members of the Memorial searching group suppose that mass executions were held at the Rzhevsky artillery range during 1937-38.

[2banana]

A lot more than Hitler but less than Mao

[KeyBored]

In the mass-murderer "Hall of Fame", Hitler is usually given "top-honor" (rightfully so); but Stalin is given a pass.

Wonder why?

[South Dakota]

its not really known how many he killed but Ive hard it said that 30 million is low. hitler was a piker in the genocide race

[fone]

As I recall (my son did a research paper on it this past spring) they think it is somewhere between 20 and 30 million. Give or take a few hundred thousand. Uncle Joe.

BTW, his real name wasn't Stalin. The word, pronounced sta-lean, in Russian means "steel." It was a nickname. He was also studying to be a priest when they kicked him out of the seminary for reading/preaching Marx.

[fone]

FWIW: I have a WWII history book, printed in 1945, that extols the "great" Joe Stalin. How he transformed Russia into the new Industrial Age.

Remember, they were still our "allies" at the time. . .

[gr8eman]

Interesting! What was his real name? Just curious! I always believed it was Stalin! BTW, It is truly amazing to read Pravda which IMO has great and mostly factual reporting compared to the commie propaganda in the NYT et al...

[17th Miss Regt]

20-30 million is in the right ballpark, mostly in the gulags, but a big chunk on the farms. Stalin liked to boast that he was kiccked out of the Tiflis Theological Seminary for distibuting Marxist literature. The truth may be more mundane. I recall reading some research that claims that he was expelled because he failed to sit for some exams which were required. My guess is that this is the truth and the other story was a good dinner table fable.

[KoestlersRedFiat]

Josef Vissarionovitch Djugashvili (not sure if the patronymic is spelled correctly.)

[niteowl77]

It was something like Dzugashvili, but a mass murdering tyrant by any other name would smell as sweet to a progressive. I'm sure that the dead - wherever they may now be - are somehow happy they made the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of the workers of the world.

(The above typed with the best sneer I can manage.)

[17th Miss Regt]

Stalin's real name was Josef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili. The patronymic means "son of Vissarion", his hard drinking shoemaker father. Dzhugashvili is a Georgian name.

[Wonder Warthog]

Vissarionovich Zhugashvili (aka Stalin)

[#3Fan]

He was also studying to be a priest when they kicked him out of the seminary for reading/preaching Marx.

hmmmm. Have we got us a pattern here?
Hitler was kicked out of a Jewish art school and then committed crimes against humanity abgainst the Jews.
Stalin was kicked out of a school for being socialist and then committed crimes against humanity against anti-socialists.
Al Gore flunked out of a Christian school and so what would happen if he acquired power?

Only halfway joking.

[Peter Porcupine]

What was his real name?

Dzhugashvili--he was not an ethnic Russian either, but a Georgian. Many of the leading Bolsheviks used pseudonyms--including Lenin (born Ulyanov) and Trotsky (born Bronstein).

[banjo joe]

Reminds me of a fav BC quote: "Wait 'till I'm president. I'll show them government can do".

[fone]

Okay, I dusted off the book at the quote says:

"At the (Tiflis) seminary Stalin became acquainted with Marx's work, quarreled with the corrupt (sic) Russian priests, and was expelled as a "radical" for organizing trade unions (although I'm intrigued by your statement a bit more).

Also note, he was exiled eight times, escaping seven times.

Josef Djugushvili

Another quote:
His name will go down in history as the man who developed socialist Russia in twenty short years from a backward, illiterate, undeveloped agricultural coutnry to one of the most highly educated, powerful, modern industrial countries of the world.

....There were [his] blunders and mistakes. Stalin himself had to reprimand the overzealousness of the Communists in collectivizing the farms. There was sabotage and suffering. At times, it would seem today, only the determination of Stalin bridged the gap between chaos and socialism...
...Stalin has been the bold, resolute leader of the "dictatorship of the proletariat."....
...When H.G. Wells asked him what he was doing to change the world, he said: "Not so very much."...
...Firmly entrenched, he is called by many Soviet millions "Father Russia."

/end

And let us not forget his good comrade Molotov!

[fone]

Here's one for you:

"Stalin's mother, Ekatrina Djugushvili, was determined he should not be a cobbler. When he was nine she sent him to the Gori ecclesiastical school to become a priest. Interviewed years later by HR Knickerbocker, she said Stalin had always been "a good boy."

Uh, yeah. A mother's love, eh?

[NC Conservative]

The truth may be more mundane. I recall reading some research that claims that he was expelled because he failed to sit for some exams which were required. My guess is that this is the truth and the other story was a good dinner table fable.

Stalin wouldnt lie would he

[fone]

>>>Only halfway joking.<<

Maybe not?

[NC Conservative]

Al Gore flunked out of a Christian school and so what would happen if he acquired power?

Algore is as Christian as Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt.