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To: Gophack
Say, some of you guys lob as many 'grenades' toward your own camp as too; the hate dripping off the jowls of some here towards those of us conservatives FED UP with RINOs antics year in and year out, campaign in and campaign out, administration in and administration out, and this constant GOP shifting to liberal and moderate accomodationist positions, is something we might also loath, too. Have you considered that? Or are you new to the political scene and not been through enough cycles and sellouts yet?
63 posted on 08/30/2002 10:42:40 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Mudboy Slim
Us? You must have missed what I said about Donnie DiFrancesco. I'm against ANYONE who sabotages a conservative Republican candidate - from the center or from those who purport to be conservatives.

Justify it all you want. Cry "sellout" all you wish. You are equally guilty in my mind. I've BEEN "sold out" by the likes of Warner (I cast a proud vote for Ollie North in 1994). YOU are selling out just so you can feel good about yourself. YOU are little more than a sunshine conservative in my book.

The backstabbing STOPS NOW. You might think of me as a moderate or accomodationist, but you're not dealing with Trent Lott's lignuini spine. I've seen enough of these comments about how perfectly solid conservatives like Simon have "lost a vote" over this, and I'm going to fight any who will do so. Those who sell Simon out in 2002 are NO BETTER than John Warner or Donnie DiFrancesco.
66 posted on 08/30/2002 10:50:42 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I've been a Republican volunteer for fifteen years and I have worked as the campaign manager on many staffs. I am frustrated by much of what I see, but I know that we're making some gains. I have found many battles and won, and many battles and lost. I am a conservative, before I had a family I worked 18 hour days electing conservative Republicans to office, walking precincts around California, phone banking, talking to voters, and serving on the board of active volunteer organizations like Young Americans for Freedom and the California Republican Assembly. My credentials are not in question.

I have been disappointed many times. I was disappointed in George Bush Senior, but I voted for him in 1992. I have been disappointed by my elected representatives, but for the most part they are conservative and I support them. I don't agree 100% with anyone, and I don't expect them to always agree with me. But if they are right of center, and solid on the right to life and the right to keep and bear arms, I will give them a couple chances.

Don't believe everything you read, and don't think that ANYONE is ever going to agree with you all the time. I knew a conservative once who re-registered as a Democrat to run against a conservative Republican because he was furious that the conservative Republican would advocate a constitutional convention for the purposes of a balanced budget amendment. They agreed on everything else -- abortion, guns, taxes, etc -- but this was the "one issue" that was more important than any other. If there was another issue, he would have bailed on that one as well.

I do not like RINOs and have done everything I can to defeat them. I do not vote for pro-aborts because as a Catholic I can not in good conscience vote for anyone who promotes the killing of unborn children or old people. But I will fight for those who are almost 100% conservative because this is but one battle in a war. And the Democrats are winning.

69 posted on 08/30/2002 10:58:57 AM PDT by Gophack
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