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RADIO LIMBO FOR UNHOLY JERK JOCKS
New York Post ^ | 8/20/02 | Michael Starr and Dan Mangan

Posted on 08/20/2002 7:01:25 AM PDT by hellinahandcart

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Opie (left) and Anthony had their live show pulled yesterday after their St. Pat's sexcapade led to three arrests and outrage.

August 20, 2002 -- "Opie and Anthony's" live radio show was yanked off the air yesterday as WNEW-FM's owner fretted over the shock jocks' promotion of a sex stunt in St. Patrick's Cathedral.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: anticatholichate; fcc; opieanthony; wnew
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To: Tribune7
So, I guess you wanted John Rocker fired from baseball....re-education camp wasn't enough?
61 posted on 08/20/2002 12:51:32 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: aeiou
Aww...you feelings are hurt cause I disagree with the premise that the station should lose it's broadcasting license.
62 posted on 08/20/2002 12:52:46 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: bribriagain; hellinahandcart
Thanks. We folks out here in fly over country are so behind the times, I guess.
63 posted on 08/20/2002 1:01:34 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: jackbill
I agree!

They hit the trifecta with this one incident and they deserve to have their license revoked, with prejudice!

64 posted on 08/20/2002 1:03:05 PM PDT by steve in DC
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To: OldFriend
So, I guess you wanted John Rocker fired from baseball....re-education camp wasn't enough?

Try again. John Rocker had his opinion published in a print magazine. This couple desecrated a sacred place during religious services on a holy day AND the play by play was simultaneously broadcast live on the radio. There is a difference one could drive a truck through.

65 posted on 08/20/2002 1:46:40 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Pietro
At some point the American public is required to say, unequivically, that certain behavior is unacceptable. To abdicate that responsibility is to further rend the tattered fabric of our society.
The only thing unacceptable was doing it in public. The Puritans who want the station taken off the air are "the usual suspects". For the most part, these modern day Comstocks won't rest until any entertainment they consider "indecent" is banned by law. In that respect they are nothing but statists, as bad as any liberal foaming at the mouth about "hate speech".

Like others who would subordinate individual liberty to the whims of those who can cajole a majority into supporting their personal prejudices, they need to be opposed by any means neccesary.

-Eric

66 posted on 08/20/2002 2:38:16 PM PDT by E Rocc
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To: hellinahandcart; All
Drudge Headline:


FCC CONSIDERS PULLING WNEW-NY LICENSE AFTER CHURCH SEX STUNT
67 posted on 08/20/2002 3:23:53 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: hellinahandcart; All
From an AP report in the WashPost:

FCC Commissioner Michael Copps, saying he had received hundreds of outraged phone calls and e-mails, promised that the complaints were "on the fast track" for consideration by his agency.

If they prove true, he said, "this commission should consider the strongest enforcement action possible against this station, up to and including revocation."

68 posted on 08/20/2002 3:26:05 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Non-Sequitur
Thanks. We folks out here in fly over country are so behind the times, I guess.

You're not missing anything. Opie & Anthony are just the latest in a long, long line of Howard Stern ripoffs. The only difference is that they decided to take Howard's schtick and follow a much lower road. Their entire act consists of them trying to find more and more ways to truly outrage the general public and thus garner more and more attention for themselves.

This has to be at least the fourth time they've been suspended by WNEW since getting the job there (few radio personalities anywhere would still be employed if they screwed up after a single suspension), and this time I think they may truly have gone too far. They make money for Infinity, but if Infinity loses their license for that station, that'll cause the company a loss somewhere in the NINE-DIGIT range. Ninety-eight percent of a radio station's value is wrapped up in its license. You lose that, and you are completely wiped out instantaneously. You can't sell the license to someone else; the FCC just takes it. All you can do is sell the office furniture and studio equipment and hope you can maybe recoup a few hundred thousand bucks or so from that.

And while O&A make money for the company, I don't think they make THAT much money. When their antics start causing a daily threat to the station's license, they will be fired.

69 posted on 08/20/2002 3:45:15 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: E Rocc
The only thing unacceptable was doing it in public.

I do believe you're getting it.

Look above your head. There should be a lit bulb up there...

70 posted on 08/20/2002 3:47:13 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: E Rocc
he Puritans who want the station taken off the air are "the usual suspects". For the most part, these modern day Comstocks won't rest until any entertainment they consider "indecent" is banned by law.

It already IS banned by law, and has been since the earliest days of radio. The people you so smugly sneer at are merely following the established procedures to have the law enforced. Their actions are no different from when someone calls 911 when they see a murder taking place.

71 posted on 08/20/2002 3:48:49 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: frossca
For all of you who are urging a state solution to this incident, please remeber your words when the feds come after stations airing Rush or Christian based radio for broadcasting hate speech.

These FCC rules have been around for approximately 80 years, and the system has worked just fine all along. Besides, "hate speech" isn't illegal. There are all sorts of radio stations out there - some AM/FM, but mostly shortwave - that allocate much or all of their airtime to hardcore white power programming. And they're all licensed by the FCC. As long as they don't incite riots or anything, they're safe.

The phrase "The airwaves belong to the public" was coined by govenment officials because they needed a way to control the content of broadcast media.

No it wasn't. The concept of the "public airwaves" goes back to roughly the early 1920s, when everybody and his brother were purchasing transmitters and filling up the broadcast band to the point that it was all becoming pure noise (like the muddle of signals you get when you tune your AM radio around 1300-1500 KHz at night) because everyone was transmitting over everybody else. So the precursor to the FCC stepped in and instituted a band plan and licenscing scheme so that commercial radio could do what it was meant to do: actually deliver comprehendable signals to the public. The technology of the time was such that there was really little other solution to the problem.

In fact, the technology has indeed kept broadcast radio holed up in its little amount of spectrum almost until today. Only in the last 5-10 years have new ways been invented (digital radio, spread spectrum, Internet radio, satellite radio, etc) that can truly expand the number of available radio "channels" by leaps and bounds. And capitalism being what it is, most of these new technologies are being marginalized while the National Association of Broadcasters - arguably the single most effective lobbying organization in the country - fights them tooth and nail. They don't want any new competition, and they don't want to have to shell out cash for new transmitter facilities.

In the end, the radio stations themselves are the main reason the public airwaves are so bland. They want it that way. The FCC couldn't care less.

72 posted on 08/20/2002 4:06:50 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Pietro
"Finally, there is such a thing as common decency, but only so long as we are willing to uphold it."

Alas, as demonstrated by this story and some in their response, common decency appears to have gone the way of common sense.

73 posted on 08/20/2002 4:08:49 PM PDT by KeyBored
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To: Timesink
(*sigh*) I'll just add that to the endless number of reasons why I'm glad I don't live on either coast.
74 posted on 08/20/2002 5:06:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: steve in DC
They hit the trifecta with this one incident and they deserve to have their license revoked, with prejudice!

I just sent my e-mail to Michael Powell, head of the FCC (and Colin Powell's son). His address is:

mpowell@fcc.gov

In it, I demanded that they enforce their regulations against the broadcasting of obscenity and indecency.

I suggest that like-minded people do the same.

75 posted on 08/20/2002 6:30:29 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: NorCoGOP
A small explanation of myself first. I am not a very political person, but I am a fan of the Opie & Anthony show. I signed up at FreeRepublic.com solely in order to respond to you all who are talking like you're the moral center of society.
First of all, the name of this forum site should tell you something. We may not be a republic, but we tend towards freedom. Now, I'm not going to get all preachy about the first amendment, and I know there are laws against this sort of thing, but where were they last year, and the year before that, when this exact same contest was run? Or even more simply, where was the law enforcement for the seven other couples doing the same exact thing all over the city? (Please do not read that as a dig against the NYC police force) I think that some of you don't realize that a large percent of the force are fans of the show.
Secondly, this "prank" was not, as most seem to want to believe, aimed exclusively at the church (catholic or St. Patrick's, take your pick). Most couples also "visited" the Hard Rock Cafe. Where are the activists and protesters in defense of that establishment? Do they just not care, or is it a seedy joint where sex on the bar stools is commonplace?
One thing that I think has happened to this country (in no small part due to 9/11, but it was a developing trend before that) is that our sense of humor and general tolerance has gone waaay down. People protesting the pledge of allegiance? Women demanding valid photo ID of them in a birka? There are certain things that happen when people become too empowered by a false sense of power, especially when that power is given to them by their society that affords them their basic rights in the first place. They try to turn the tables on that society and begin to demand more and more and 90% of the time, they win and society loses just a little bit more of what made it great in the first place.

I find that the more the little things like this get blown out of proportion, the farther we fall towards being a petty group of blithering idiots, arguing amongst ourselves, much the way the denizens of this forum are doing as we speak, myself included.
76 posted on 08/20/2002 10:08:57 PM PDT by No_witty_name
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To: jackbill
In it, I demanded that they enforce their regulations against the broadcasting of obscenity and indecency.
The concept of "indecency" has no place in law.

-Eric

77 posted on 08/21/2002 3:50:25 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Timesink
It already IS banned by law, and has been since the earliest days of radio. The people you so smugly sneer at are merely following the established procedures to have the law enforced. Their actions are no different from when someone calls 911 when they see a murder taking place.
Have you ever listened to the show? They don't use the "F-word", for example, instead saying "the F-word", literally. Trust me, the station and the syndication company have lawyers that review the letter of the law. They skirt it the way Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh do.

By the way, did you know that Rush Limbaugh defends Howard Stern's right to broadcast what he does? Ever wonder why? Part of it is principle to be sure, but part is knowing that if the moralizers ever take down Stern, he'll be targetted next.

By the way, the laws haven't been the same "since the earliest days of radio". They were greatly loosened in the early 80s. I'd say they were "liberalized", but it doesn't seem like the right word to use when the driving force behind it was Ronald Reagan's FCC appointees.

The gun grabbers, PC nuts, WoD freaks, the Prohibitionists of the early 20th century, and the censorship zealots of the late 19th all "followed the established procedures". That doesn't mean their causes were right or they shouldn't have been (or be) opposed as cranks.

-Eric

78 posted on 08/21/2002 4:01:02 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
They skirt it the way Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh do.

What, exactly, does Limbaugh do that can be compared with Stern or Opie & Anthony?

79 posted on 08/21/2002 4:36:42 AM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
They skirt it the way Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh do.

What, exactly, does Limbaugh do that can be compared with Stern or Opie & Anthony?

Annoys people on purpose. Limbaugh annoys humorless liberals, Howard and O&A annoy humorless prudes.

More to your point, if you don't think Rush ever said anything that Wildmon et al would consider "indecent", recall the whole Lewinsky matter.

-Eric

80 posted on 08/21/2002 5:01:23 AM PDT by E Rocc
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