[exmarine]

I told the truth about the door. It is there - the Pope opens it every 25 years (jubilee year) and people walk thru it to be cleansed. Does walking thru a door have any power? hmm?

[Aliska]

They walk through the door to gain an indulgence not to be cleansed. They have already been cleansed before they walk through the door if they have confessed and received communion. I never said if it was a good idea or not. I merely told you the plain truth about the door and the meaning of it and you stubbornly cling to your misunderstanding about the door.

In the bible, people went and did certain things (actions - possibly penitential actions) and were healed, like bathing in rivers, pools, etc. Certain actions do indeed have power in the spiritual sense. Who am I to say that walking through the door doesn't do any good? I wasn't there and I didn't do it. I'm saying I don't KNOW if the door is efficacious or not but that I DO KNOW WHY people walk through the door and it is not for the reason you stated.

I don't understand everything about scripture, will never understand everything in there, revere it, but must walk by faith and trust that God will not call me to account for what I do not understand.

Many things protestants say do interest me and make sense, but the minute they start bashing the catholic church with lies (because they don't seem to care enough to read up about certain of her teachings) (there are websites all over the place like that).

I'll give you an example. There is an Ian Paisley who has a website. He hates the catholic church. Some of his objections might carry weight, but he says lots of things about the catholic church that simply are not true. He talks about apparitions that the church has not approved, he talks about Mary being a co-redeemer (not approved by the church as of this date), things like that. Why should I believe anything else he says when I know he is not being truthful about things I DO know?

In other words, he TWISTS truth which can be objectively proven (unlike scripture) to suit his own agenda. I don't like that because he is placing himself in the category of a liar (about certain things) due to his blind hatred.

You are preaching at me about something I will never be fully certain about in this life. You are trying to impose your beliefs on me. That is what is bothering me.

Now you have irritated me and I will have to find it in my heart to forgive you and it isn't going to be easy and it will take time.

It would be much easier to forgive you if you could be more honest about the door. But that is my problem now, not yours.