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To: DaveCooper
Yeah, Gene Healy, we should all just mind our own business. If we see 4 young Middle Eastern males driving down Peachtree in Atlanta filming tall buildings, it is none of our business. If they are taking pictures of powerplants, it is none of our business. If they are taking flying lessons but not learning to land, it is none of our business. If they have large meetings in their apartment in which they are chanting "Death to America," it is none of our business.

Tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of Muslims around the world want us dead and our civilization destroyed. Let us just pretend it is not that way and go on living like it is Sept. 10. If you do, however, be prepared to kiss you *ss goodbye.

3 posted on 07/29/2002 9:28:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Yeah, Gene Healy, we should all just mind our own business. If we see 4 young Middle Eastern males driving down Peachtree in Atlanta filming tall buildings, it is none of our business.

Um, no, that's not what he said at all. If I see something as suspicious as that, I will report it whether or not TIPS is in place. But when the government is actively recruiting people to spy on their fellow citizens, that is dangerously close to a police state. Arguably, that *is* a police state.

If they are taking flying lessons but not learning to land, it is none of our business.

And that *was* reported before 9/11, and it was ignored. The problem is not a lack of information; it is a failure to analyze the information we do have. TIPS is going to generate millions of very questionable data points ("I saw a Bible and an NRA poster in John Doe's house") and is more likely to divert resources from following real leads than to actually preventing future terrorist acts.

9 posted on 07/29/2002 9:42:47 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: doug from upland
That is hardly the point, sure have a TIPS line, but don't make an organization of it and fill it with postal workers, cable repair men, telephone installers, and plumbers. That is open to great abuse, and is for sure an end run around the 4th.

This is not to say that a postal worker suspicious of activity should not call in, of course, but to organize a spy network in this manner can lead to Nazi Germany in a heart beat in the wrong administrations hands.

When it begins to come down to that deer head sitting on your wall being an indication that you are a hunter and therefore must have a weapon in the house, and that goes into a data base, you might change your mind about an organized spy network.

12 posted on 07/29/2002 9:58:32 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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