A senior rat leads the charge generated by klintinoids in the Pentagon and statists at DOJ to make possible using the armed forces to arrest (and incarcerate?) US citizens. Meanwhile note the ofuscatory rhetoric about how using the armed forces in defense of our borders necessitates such a change. How many soldiers do you think would ever be sent to the Az-Mex border versus how many used to control citizen activities in say Idaho. How long, especially if the rats get the White House, until the need for in-camera trials for native born US citizens accused of "certain classes of crimes" (hint 'hate crimes' will be considered acts of terrorism and the definition of hate crime will be expanded beyond yor wildest dream) will be determined to be a buring necessity in the perpetual war on 'terrorism'.
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To: robowombat
"We should always be reviewing things like Posse Comitatus and other laws, such as the Constitution, if we think it ties our hands in protecting the American people,"
2 posted on
07/22/2002 6:42:55 AM PDT by
Kerberos
To: robowombat
I heard Biden on Sunday morning on Fox discussing this new power. He said it would be necessary for the military to foil any plot using a weapon of mass destruction. Under current law, for instance, if an Arab terrorist were attempting to detonate a suitcase bomb in the Lincoln Tunnel, and the military were the first to arrive, they would not be authorized to either detain or shoot at the terrorist because the military lacks the proper police powers under such circumstances. I say do whatever it takes to track and kill Arab terrorists.
To: robowombat
We shall see how asleep the American sheep are.
5 posted on
07/22/2002 6:50:34 AM PDT by
cynicom
To: robowombat
If Biden is for this thing, people who love their freedom had better take a good, hard look at this proposal.
8 posted on
07/22/2002 6:51:41 AM PDT by
Don Myers
To: robowombat
Will soldiers be allowed to arrest Senators too?
To: robowombat
Pretty soon, we'll have soldiers swearing allegiance to Caesar instead of the Constitution.
To: robowombat
Anything except racial profiling...its an election year after all......
Hey biden Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Yankee Oscar Uniform over.........
To: robowombat
Posse Comitatus = the difference between Banana Republics and the USA.
To: robowombat
We all know what this had led to in other countries, so let's look at what happened in this country the last time soldiers had arrest powers:
Congress assigned to federal troops a large role in law enforcement in the 11 Confederate states after the Civil War, tasks such as guarding election polling places, arresting members of the Ku Klux Klan
They enforced "hate crimes".
and halting the production of illegal moonshine
And fought a "war on drugs".
and the fomenting of labor strife.
And involved themselves in labor disputes.
Well, aren't those just great! Which such a < cough > restrained role the last time the military had arrest powers, we certainly won't expect them to expand their use this time.
28 posted on
07/22/2002 7:14:40 AM PDT by
freeeee
To: robowombat
O.K., how many of you who are slamming this proposal have also called for the U.S. Military to patrol/take back control of our borders. Guess what? Controlling our borders is considered domestic law enforcement, and that's why the U.S. military is not currently permitted to be involved in border control. You can't have it both ways.
30 posted on
07/22/2002 7:19:05 AM PDT by
arm958
To: robowombat
Xao Bi Den of the Peoples' Democracy of Deleware wants to follow the Peoples' Republic of China's example in having the military with arrest powers. This piece of excrement never met an unconstitutional repression of freedom that he didn't like. All of our thanks to the socialist morons of the second smallest state for keeping him in office.
To: robowombat
To: robowombat
A senior rat leads the charge generated by klintinoids in the Pentagon and statists at DOJ to make possible using the armed forces to arrest (and incarcerate?) US citizens.....B-b-b wait robowombat......I thought it was the conservatives in this country who are the facists. At least that's what CNN says.
Anybody have doubts as to what America would look like today if Al Gore and his Democrat hacks were running the country?
To: robowombat
So military rule isn't unprecedented in the united states since it was used against civilians in the former confederate states after the civil war?
43 posted on
07/22/2002 7:42:49 AM PDT by
bok
To: robowombat
Oooo. That pesky Constitution keeps getting in Biden's way.
To: robowombat
Lets see, we have the FBI, the CIA, the DEA and ATF thugs, Federal Marshals, the Border Patrol, Coast Guard, the Secret Service, INS and IRS agents, Fish and Game Wardens etc. etc. and these are just federal law inforcement.
In Texas we have Texas Rangers, Highway Patrol, County Sheriffs, Constables, City Police, School Dist. Police..ack!
Do we we really need the military as well? If so, then can we get rid of some of these other agencies?
62 posted on
07/22/2002 8:55:32 AM PDT by
monday
To: robowombat
When the Patriot Act was pushed through by the President, I posted that the chains of tyranny might well be forged by a Republican administration. Of course, I was taken as Clintonite, a 'Bush-hater' or a right-wing Buchananite.
It appears to me that this latest news is clearly indicating where the Republic is headed.
It is interesting to note that more of the US Constitution has been destroyed piece by piece under the Bush administration in the first two years than was accomplished by Clinton in his entire first term.
66 posted on
07/22/2002 9:19:02 AM PDT by
fogarty
To: robowombat
"Right now, when you call in the military, the military would not be able to shoot to kill, if they were approaching the weapon," nor could they arrest any suspects. B-b-b-but this can't be true! The Movies tell me so.</sarcasm>
To: robowombat
As long as the military first arrests Congress, I'm in.
To: robowombat; BillofRights; christine11; Askel5
The White House has instructed lawyers at the departments of Defense and Justice to analyze federal laws on the books that restrict the military's role in law enforcement on U.S. shores, the paper reported.
Congress assigned to federal troops a large role in law enforcement in the 11 Confederate states after the Civil War, tasks such as guarding election polling places, arresting members of the Ku Klux Klan, and halting the production of illegal moonshine and the fomenting of labor strife.
The Posse Comitatus Act was enacted in 1878 to eliminate military enforcement of the civil law, effectively ending Reconstruction
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Federal troops werent used to enforce American civil law in any of the United States after the Civil war.
Get the facts right, please. American Federal troops were used to enforce foreign laws on a conquered nation.
If Senator Biden gets his way, the military will have a power that they have never enjoyed before; the power of enforcing civilian laws inside the borders of the United States.
78 posted on
07/22/2002 11:54:29 AM PDT by
exodus
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