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Caiso Outlook For California Power, 11 July 2002
Caiso ^ | 11 JULY 2002 | Caiso

Posted on 07/11/2002 6:42:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

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To: tubebender
You really like to rub your cool temps in don't you:

WE missed setting a record high by 2 degrees here in Eureka yesterday. It got all the way up to 67 against a record 69 set in 1945.

As the new Nero Wolfe would say, "Phooey to you!

21 posted on 07/11/2002 9:07:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
This is very serious and very new worthy!

You are correct and I do agree with everything you say, however the point I was making was that the hot weather is not the news, but the crazy way the democRATS have managed power in this state.

Add to this, the way that deregulation was handled. The original proposal was to begin deregulation small by deregulating businesses first and when that was successful, move on to homes. The state in it's infinite wisdom ignored the recommendations and deregulated everybody, but threw in the caveat that power companies could not buy power on contract, but only on the spot market and then put a cap on what consumers could be charged.. Of course, that caused power costs to go up exponentially. It should be noted that there have been no rolling greyouts since PG&E got it's price hike.

I live in Lodi where we have our own power company which has plenty of power and has always obtained long term contracts to tide us over the high peak months. During the rolling greyouts, the Lodi Power Company manager refused to shut down power to the people of Lodi when ordered to, because we were never deregulated and had planned ahead.

I work for a company that allowed the power company to shut the manufacturing plant down in a power emergency. There were so many Greyouts that our plant and several other removed themselves from this program because the cheaper cost of electricy was no longer balanced out by the costs of lost productivity. In this way California really hurt their ability to manage hot spells also.

22 posted on 07/11/2002 9:10:15 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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To: B-bone
You are correct with this: Coffee is not an addiction, it is the vital basic food element!

If I didn't have my morning coffee, I would probably starve to death as I would not be able to find the refrigerator or pantry for breakfast, lunch or dinner. :)

23 posted on 07/11/2002 9:10:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: w1andsodidwe
Unfortunately it takes a hot spell to be able to get your real story out as a real story.

You and I know what the real story is. Most of the Kalifornians do not. It takes these hot spells and blackouts to get the real story to them.

Your comment here is a real reality check: I work for a company that allowed the power company to shut the manufacturing plant down in a power emergency. There were so many Greyouts that our plant and several other removed themselves from this program because the cheaper cost of electricy was no longer balanced out by the costs of lost productivity. In this way California really hurt their ability to manage hot spells also.

How many Californian companies have had their profits and maybe their ability to survive, endangered by the enviro whackos/libs and Gray Davis with this lack of electricity to meet their and our demands?

24 posted on 07/11/2002 9:19:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
How many Californian companies have had their profits and maybe their ability to survive, endangered by the enviro whackos/libs and Gray Davis with this lack of electricity to meet their and our demands?

So true. The companies that I am associated with are Grower Cooperative, so they are unlikely to go anywhere, however most are developeing their own sources of power. Is it any wonder that the Central Valley is where conservatism reigns in California?

25 posted on 07/11/2002 9:30:01 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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To: w1andsodidwe
Good for you and your people!

Last year a lot of us were really concerned and scared of what could happened during the August/September harvests up and down the valley during blackouts.

If we had blackouts during the harvest and canning/freezing time in your area last summer/fall, that would have been an incredible economic disaster.

If your company or friends need some good conservative construction know how for their projects, I have a source. Just Freep Mail me.

Keep up the good work. You guys and the farmers not only feed Californians, but a large part of the country and world. That is inspite of the enviralists attacks 24/7 against the farmers and the people who put their farm products into safe and useable products for us to buy and feed our families with.
26 posted on 07/11/2002 9:36:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
I refer to coffee as "The breakfast of champions"
27 posted on 07/11/2002 10:03:25 AM PDT by B-bone
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To: Grampa Dave
The news articles predicted power rationing do to high temperatures. Being a cynic, let let me suggest something.
Grey Davis' governorship re-election performance is somewhat linked to his management of California power, right? Who's to say that some pro-Davis media outlets set Californian's up in a way that makes Davis look like he's doing a good job. Like: High temperatures, but everything turned out OK. Davis is ON THE JOB. If California fall 2002 elections have national significance in any way, this might not be far fetched.
An aside- the election is probably why Diane Feinstein is for letting pilots have guns, but that is another topic.
28 posted on 07/11/2002 11:27:59 AM PDT by CCCnative
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To: Grampa Dave; All
I finally got my coffee down and am starting to wake up!

I see the topic is coffee.

Every one needs one of these:

Gepost door Bram Kouwenberg maandag 8 juli 2002 - 14:37 - bron: PimpRig.com
Het mag een publiek geheim heten dat voor een hoge productiviteit de juiste hardware-ondersteuning alleen niet genoeg is. De olie waar onze kantooreconomie op draait is natuurlijk koffie. Voor zij die geen ruimte hebben voor én een computerkast én een koffiezetapparaat, is op PimpRig.com de oplossing verschenen. Met deze dual Pentium III, voorzien van 1GB aan geheugen en 100GB aan opslagcapaciteit, voorzie je tevens in je leutbehoefte. Kijk, huiver, bewonder en sla steil achterover :

Basically, it's a fully functioning coffee maker integrated into a computer case. You pour the water into the funnel at the top, it goes down the tube into a book-shaped water tank where it sits until you hit the power switch, at which point the heating coil boils the water, sending it back up another tube and into the coffee grounds basket. The switch can also be controlled using an RF keychain remote. Other mods include: custom-cut window which was then hand-etched to a coffee cup motif, custom-build LED arrays to provide exactly the right shade of red light, stereo VU meter in the front panel indicator section, additional hot plate on top for two pots of coffee at once, and the white,

29 posted on 07/11/2002 11:28:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ernest still pushing his Pentium Coffee Maker from Hell!
30 posted on 07/11/2002 11:35:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: CCCnative
You know that everyday that we don't have a blackout, his cadres will be screaming what a great leader he is.

However, those who screw around with Mother Nature usually get the shaft.
31 posted on 07/11/2002 11:37:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: B-bone
Without coffee, there would be no breakfast for me. I would burn down or destroy our Kitchen.

We have an automatic grind the beans, start it and brew it coffee maker. It is loaded with water, fresh coffee beans and the start time is set each night (after a full day's coffee).

Without it we are like Mr Frick and Mrs Frack in the morning.
32 posted on 07/11/2002 11:41:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
The German guys can probably add that feature in to the Dual Pentium III caffeïnestation.

with two processors they can probably have in booted and logged onto Free Republic for you.

I don't understand why you are resisting this technological marvel !

33 posted on 07/11/2002 11:46:45 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave
Coffee is not an addiction, it is the vital basic food element!

One of the four major food groups; the other three being Nicotine, Sugar and Fat.

34 posted on 07/11/2002 1:07:42 PM PDT by DuncanWaring
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To: Grampa Dave
I'm not a coffee drinker, but I'm usually on my fourth Diet Coke by 8:00. I have to get caffine somewhere.

On the power front, where did the heck the rain come from here in So Cal? It cooled everything off. We're topping off at 73 here on the Orange County Coast. Mother Nature saved Davis from three days of Emergency Alerts. Although nobody but us has heard about the previous ones.
35 posted on 07/11/2002 1:52:08 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: socal_parrot
Must be the power of prayer from the Governor's office! LOL!

I was wondering about that bit of drizzle.

36 posted on 07/11/2002 1:54:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave
Until the Cal-ISO has used up all of its "30 days" where it can cut off industrial and volunteer power users, Davis can probably hold off the rolling blackouts.

They've probably used up at least 4 of those days based upon what's been made public, and perhaps another 5 that haven't, but it's going to take a long, hot July and August to trip the breakers (unless temps just go nuts).

Still, you can bet that Davis is paying as much attention to the weather and Cal-ISO as he is to his fundraising and daily scandal tallies right now!

37 posted on 07/11/2002 2:05:28 PM PDT by Southack
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I was in Long Beach this morning and there was a pretty good shower for around 15 minutes. Davis probably didn't pray for rain. He most likely brought in a multi-cultural Shaman to do some sort of dance to the rain god. It did leave it humid though. Humidity of 74% measured at the Duke.
38 posted on 07/11/2002 2:08:45 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Southack; Ernest_at_the_Beach; snopercod
Back in the office. Looked at todays system status report for the Western Electric Coordination Council (formerly WSCC), and found on page 2 of the system report the following:

Wednesday's Notable Events:
The California ISO issued a Stage 1 Emergency effective 1529 and a Stage 2 Emergency effective 1610. Both were cancelled at 1907. CISO requested 1124MW of interruptible non-firm shed between PG&E, SCE and SDGE. Also, MWD shed 101 MW of pump load from 1524 to 1815 and CDWR shed 204 MW of pump load from 1545 to 1900. CAISO reported they were short on spinning reserve from 1500 to 1522 due to the loss of Ormond Beach Unit #2 while generating 350 MW.

1124 MW (+or- another 101 to 204 MW) is more than most single nuclear plants. That is a lot of load curtailment!

39 posted on 07/11/2002 2:26:55 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Because my nice and compact Melitta Mill & Brew does all of these functions without terrorizing our household and neighborhood.

We load it up the night before and set the time to start the milling and brewing about 3-5 minutes before we want to wake up.

The grinding and milling of the whole coffee beans wakes us up with the milling/grinding sweet noises. Then we smell the fresh ground coffee beans. Then a couple of minutes later we smell the fresh coffee being brewed. No alarm is needed.

Then, my wife kicks me out of bed to get her cup of coffee topped with Clover Chocolate Milk. I get and deliver most of her cup to her. Then, I stagger back to the kitchen and fill up my "World's Best Grampa!" kingsize 24 ounce mug.

I make it to my office where my computer is with most of the coffee to turn the computer on and to log on to FR. I apologize to all when my early posts looks like Gramp lost it. I just never had it until the coffee kicks in to awaken my CNS system.

So, I don't need your German Teutonic Titanic coffee maker from hell.
40 posted on 07/11/2002 2:29:52 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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