Padre Pio Wrestled with Devil, Predicted Future

Reuters via Yahoo ^ | 6/16/02 | Philip Pullella

[BunnySlippers]

I'd recommend "Padre Pio: The True Story" by Bernard C. Ruffin

Thanks for the recommendation. Since you say it is good, I went to my library website (lapl.org) and ordered it. I should have it in a couple of days. :)

[Cicero]

I've read the "scientific" theories you may be thinking of, which say that the nails must have been through the wrists not the palms to support Christ's weight on the cross, but that is really speculative. How many times have scientists said, "It must have been this way, or that way" -- and then they were proved wrong? We don't really know for sure how crucifixions were performed generally, let alone in that particular instance.

[mdwakeup]

Orbiter's right, Bun. If Padre Pio had the wounds of Christ, he had them in the wrong place!

[BunnySlippers]

Orbiter's right, Bun. If Padre Pio had the wounds of Christ, he had them in the wrong place!

Stigmatas appear on the hands, the feet and the side where Christ was pierced. Take it up with the Pope.

[Codie]

The Shroud of Turin has the wounds in the wrists.

[fatima]

Thanks BunnySlippers for the story and the beautiful pictures.It does a soul good.

[livius]

Thanks for the pix! I was listening to Cadena Cope, a radio station in Spain (owned by the local bishops' council, I believe) where they had a great discussion of this. It was a round-table and I tuned in after they had introduced the participants, unfortunately, so I don't know their names. But in any case,one of them was discussing the role of touch and physical existence in the Church, and he said that "saints are a way of touching God." A great way of expressing it!.

Another participant said that renewal is going to come to the Church, groaning under all of its problems right now, through this "choice for God" that the saints make.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Also, I have read accounts that the nails went through both the hands and the wrists. In other words, there was a specific technique used to anchor the upper limbs as simply putting a nail through just one place might not provide enough support.

The bottom line here is that no one knows the specific method used during crucifixions. Certain individuals on this thread are attempting to insinuate an evil connotation to stigmata where none exists. That stinks.

For the record:

A week later, the disciples were once more in the room, and this time Thomas was with them. Despite the locked doors, Jesus came and stood before them. "Peace be with you," he said; then, to Thomas: "Take your finger and examine my hands. Put your hand into my side. Do not persist in your unbelief, but believe!" (John 20:26-27)

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Please see post #28.

[B Knotts]

I actually saw a story on some show (on TLC or Discovery channel, I think) an experiment that was carried out on this matter. They showed that presuming there was a block for His feet, the nails could very well have been through Jesus' hands; the amount of support at those points needed would be relatively minimal.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

SAINT PADRE PIO

[Codie]

Certain individuals on this thread are attempting to insinuate an evil connotation to stigmata where none exists. That stinks.

Are you refering to me?

[537 Votes]

In 1964, Hillary was a Goldwater Republican. Her demonic possession did not come until later, after she met Darth Bubba.

[RightOnline]

"he was credited with the medically inexplicable healing of an Italian woman who had a lung disease.

The second miracle was the curing of an 11-year-old Italian boy who had meningitis and whose mother prayed to Padre Pio while her son was in a coma."

The Good Padre.........now Saint Pio...........would be the first to correct this. He didn't heal anybody, GOD healed these people. Not in any way attempting to diminish the man (sounds like a wonderful guy......to put it mildly), but such things are so commonplace as not to be believed. You NEVER hear of them in the media and probably never will.

I've been in Evangelical Christian churches for years and years, and I can personally attest to dozens upon dozens of healings in this "league" and beyond. All manners of very advanced-stage cancers.........crippling injuries..........life-long maladies.........you name it, all completely cured. I've seen this first hand countless times. I'm not only talking about curing, but total and complete restoration.

Such is the power of fervent prayer.........and such is the generosity, compassion, and power of God.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

SAINT PADRE PIO

[Fred Mertz]

FYI

[nemecll]

I watched a small part of the canonization ceremony and was wondering how many saints would be invoked to pray for us. The requests were presented by, I guess, a countertenor, a relatively high pitched saintly voice. It was wonderful to return to Middle Ages courtesy of the ETWN, for a few brief moments. Certainly better than to watch Muslims getting ready for Jihad (jihad, according to Harvard, is just a personal fullfilment). Nostalgia over centuries. Our roots? Perhaps. Relevance? Missing, I am afraid.

[humblegunner]

Dang, all that self-mutilation to no avail.

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

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[NormsRevenge]

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