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Anthrax Theory Emerges (2002)
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Posted on 06/13/2002 6:21:14 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: okie01
I'd always assumed that Rosenberg was a loose cannon, that some were taking advantage of her statements (the "useful idiot" theory, as some have put it). But maybe she's part of a more organized disinformation campaign?
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posted on
06/13/2002 9:39:20 AM PDT
by
Mitchell
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posted on
06/13/2002 9:39:43 AM PDT
by
Mo1
To: Sub-Driver
This story will fade away... like Vince Foster, Waco, or JFK years ago, etc. The public is moving on-- (who beyond net news addicts here cares?)... it's assumed that some Islamic folks did it, and that's the end for Joe Sixpack. Perhaps the people behind the Antrax scare are on a Bermuda beach enjoying their wire transfer for the deed. It was an inside job, most likely, based on all these coincidences. And now that the media has entered this dead-end, the govt will run the clock out (a la Vince Foster, Waco, etc.) with drip-drip-drip info till it's really old news that is placed on page 7 instead of page 1 of newspapers.
To me, the Anthrax scare had a TV movie-of-the-week kind of feel to it. Then, add in the fact that several bio-weapon experts (scientists) are dying... perhaps we've all entered some giant episode of Murder She Wrote.
To: Peach
the first person to die of Anthrax last year also leased an apartment to AttaI've seen this statement several times on the net, but have never seen anything to actually back it up. I thought that the first Anthrax victim was the editor of a tabloid newspaper. Can you mention specifics of the Atta connection? The reason why I have a hard time with this version is, if it were true, it would have made BIG headlines in all the papers for a long time.
I met enough military nut cases when I was in the army to know that there are plenty of McVeighs just waiting to happen. Some of those folks need to USE whatever deathly training they've acquired or they're just not happy.
There's a tendency, especially amoung freepers, to demonize liberals and sanctify the conservatives. The notion of another McVeigh type nut out there giving the right a bad name is just too much for some people to take. The reality is that both liberals and conservatives represent different economic blocks. While I favor the conservatives, I see no reason to view them as having a higher moral claim. At the level of elective politics, they both tend to be rascals.
To: Peach
The Atta connection was done on purpose...by Mossad. These idiots knew the entire plan. They simply wanted the Arabs to look as bad as possible and took a home sample that one of their boys stole from the Dietrick lab. They never thought we would get this close to their Dietrick lab boy. The FBI has built a decent case, but it will run in circles until they connect the dots back to Mossad.
To: powderhorn
Careful - you're actually talking sense!
Put on your flame-retardant suit.
To: chemainus
What a guy! You and I know this government bureaucrat in the name of equality/diversity/respect all religions/... has caused a fifth column in our country, and the liberals are fighting us to even attempt to correct this tragedy.
To: Mitchell
I read this article until I saw the name Barbara Hatch Rosenberg. Then I stopped.
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posted on
06/13/2002 12:07:58 PM PDT
by
Nogbad
To: powderhorn
No, this is true: The wife of one of the senior editors of an AMI publication, who was exposed to(but not killed by) anthrax at AMI, is a real estate agent who rented TWO apartments to some of the hijackers while they lived in Florida (most of them lived in Florida for a time). Google it up, it has been widely reported. If this is pure coincidence, then bet on my neighbor's goat to win the Triple Crown - it's just as likely.
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posted on
06/13/2002 12:08:10 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: Sub-Driver
Aha - dirty tricks in the air? Notice Anthrax problems have disappeared. Methinks the FBI knows exactly who was involved and has told them to knock it off. A cover-up is in progress.
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posted on
06/13/2002 12:20:39 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
To: Sub-Driver
The FBI is obviously desperate to show the anthrax attack to have been conducted by an American a right-wing, extremist, militia-type similar to Tim McVeigh. (Clinton may be gone, but his FBI is still in place.)
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posted on
06/13/2002 12:49:42 PM PDT
by
bimbo
To: pepsionice
Interesting take.
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posted on
06/13/2002 12:53:59 PM PDT
by
Plummz
To: Peach
Anthrax = Islamic Terrorism
Any scenario other than Islamic terrorism means ALL of the following are just coincidences.
SERIOUS CONNECTIONS
- The most serious bioterror attack in America began only days after 9-11
- The letters all mention standard Islamic catch-phrases.
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Florida Dr. Tsonas treated Ahmed al-Haznawi for a severe leg lesion in late June.
Dr. Tsonas is now convinced it was cutaneous anthrax.
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Two Johns Hopkins biodefense experts (Dr. Thomas Inglesby, Dr. Tara O'Toole) agree with Tsonas.
- FL hijackers inquire about crop-dusters and dispersal characteristics of chemical loads.
- Atta
attempted to obtain a loan to buy a plane and convert it into a chemical transport.
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Moussaoui, the "20th hijacker", had tech info on airliners, crop-dusters, and wind patterns.
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Mohamed Atta went to Huber Drugs (Delray Beach, FL) with red hands during the summer of 2001.
Druggist thought Atta was suffering from chemical exposure (basic pH -possibly bleach).
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Allah Rakah, detained by FBI, for placing suspicious bag of letters in his car with FL license plates
- Atta met
twice with
Colonel Muhammed Khalil Ibrahim al-Ani, a "very senior" Iraqi 'Special Ops' agent.
(
one report says the Czechs confirmed they had video...spycraft SOP)
(
Another report claims that a vacumm bottle was passed to Atta during the meeting)
- Ziad Jarrah
also met with an Iraqi agent in 2001 in the UAE.
- Marwan al-Shehhi
also met with an Iraqi agent in 2001 in the UAE.
- Iraq is the ONLY hostile country known to have succeeded in weaponizing anthrax
- Iraq conducted
military exercises simulating the dispersal of anthrax spores from crop-dusters
- The hijackers had two operational hubs: Hamilton, New Jersey and Delray, Florida. Anthrax was found in both areas.
JUST COINCIDENCES??
- The
wife of the Sun tabloid's editor rented two apartments to two hijackers In Florida.
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Marwan al-Shehhi went to Huber Drugs (with Atta) with severe chest congestion.
The pharmacist sold him a bottle of Robitussin initially, and later antibiotics.
To: Nogbad
read this article until I saw the name Barbara Hatch Rosenberg. Then I stopped. There are actually a couple of interesting things in this article:
First of all, the ideas that FBI agents are said to be pursuing are completely consistent with foreign terrorism; they even mention that the weaponization would have been done in a "remote location." I'd say that that's correct. (By the way, a lab in Asia would be a "remote location.") The Ft. Detrick connection is merely one possibility for where the terrorists obtained their spore samples.
Secondly, it's of interest that Barbara Hatch Rosenberg is meeting with staffers for Sens. Daschle and Leahy. This bodes ill. What is the purpose of this meeting?
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posted on
06/13/2002 2:04:10 PM PDT
by
Mitchell
To: Sub-Driver
Barbara Hatch Rosenberg. Hartford Courant. 'Nuff said.
To: My Identity
Too bad the media is too busy pinning the blame on a homegrown terrorist to actually do investigative work and report just a few of the facts you outlined. As they say in the south, I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night. There are far too many coincidences concerning Atta and his co-murderers for it to be anyone else.
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posted on
06/13/2002 3:27:46 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: My Identity
Your link to the PBS interview which mentions a "vacuum bottle passed to Atta" reminded me of a thread posted Wednesday about an INS warning regarding
Yemen, directing that "under no circumstances will an inspecting officer open a thermos bottle." The thermos bottle theory supposedly relates to bombs, but one never knows...
To: Mitchell; Allan; Persephone Kore; Speak_No_Evil; piasa; FairOpinion; Battle Axe; JohnHuang2; ...
From Mitchell, 6/13/02
"First of all, the ideas that FBI agents are said to be pursuing are completely consistent with foreign terrorism; they even mention that the weaponization would have been done in a "remote location." I'd say that that's correct. (By the way, a lab in Asia would be a "remote location.") The Ft. Detrick connection is merely one possibility for where the terrorists obtained their spore samples.
Secondly, it's of interest that Barbara Hatch Rosenberg is meeting with staffers for Sens. Daschle and Leahy. This bodes ill. What is the purpose of this meeting?"
"This bodes ill".
Mitchell, how prescient you were. With her confrontational meeting with the Senate Staffers and the FBI, she swung the "investigation" to Project Get Hatfill. Perhaps, as said often before, the staffers were impressed with her "profile" crafted to fit Hatfill, plus supporting operations at the time insinuating Hatfill, notably Kristof's "Mr. Z" works.
I suppose no one in a govt., or anywhere, will admit they were duped...so we won't get the details...and if Meselson's intervention with the FBI over "silica" was part of the same game plan.
Just a possible theory...
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posted on
03/29/2004 11:30:42 AM PST
by
Shermy
(I miss the Hatfill stories...can't someone drain a pond or something???)
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To: powderhorn
McVeigh was not a conservative nor a Christian. He was an atheist which then aligns him much more with the left than the right. imo
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posted on
03/29/2004 12:51:14 PM PST
by
FreeAtlanta
(never surrender, this is for the kids)
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