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Web Site Mocking Conspiracy Nut Michael Rivero Launched
Anti Rivero Site ^

Posted on 04/12/2002 5:21:54 PM PDT by Republican_Strategist

A HREF="http://whatreallyhappened.tripod.com/ ">Anti Rivero web site


Here’s a web site that is going after Michael Rivero’s conspiracy web site whatreallyhappened.com


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To: tpaine
You can't, & won't, because they don't exist.

You keep challenging me with what I "can't and won't" do, then when I do it you say I'm out of control. I have to give you credit for using all the tricks, but wouldn't it be easier to have an honest discussion about the facts?

261 posted on 04/16/2002 4:35:53 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
OK, you asked. Each of your following statements is a falsehood. The proof of such has been provided.

What a bizarre, out of context list. -- With NO explantion of how they are 'untruthful'.

Hey, it's your list. You said those things.

- That I said them is not disputed. - They are not falsehoods.

The explanations are in the thread.

Yep. they are, and so is the truth, just as I said.
--- I'd bet that you contested nearly every one of those statements as I made them, without calling them lies, -- and were answered in turn.

No, you're not real good at answering when you've been shown wrong. You usually just move on to something else, or you start bizarre claims about 'ad hominem' or try to characterize it as semantics, or whatever other technique you can think of to get out of it. What's bizarre is that you think these previous posts can't be looked at so you can imply I didn't prove you wrong or that you answered everything. They're still here. I can go back and do it over if you want, but I'm starting to suspect it's just a way to keep me busy :-)

-- Nope, -- it YOU that has a bizarre belief that you have 'proved me wrong'. The posts are there, as you say, and I'm perfectly willing to let them stand as the record.
-- You started accusing me of these deliberate lies just several posts ago. -- I don't get it. -- Why am I supposed to be lying? -- Why would I risk my crediblity here? - Is it supposedly just to make you look 'bad'?

They aren't suddenly falsehoods. They've been falsehoods all along, and I've said so. That's what you didn't like.

You first accused me of lying just this morning, at post #229.
This behavior of yours is really getting weird, maybe paranoid. Lighten up.

I'm just answering you. What is weird about that?

Accusing me of deliberate lies is weird. What could possibly be my motive?

262 posted on 04/16/2002 5:20:45 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Accusing me of deliberate lies is weird. What could possibly be my motive?

We've already covered this. I don't care about your motives. I'm only observing your behavior. You told falsehoods. *Why* you do that doesn't change affect whether you did do that.

I've also explicitly made it clear that you may not be doing so deliberately. So your characterization here is yet another one isn't it?

The fact is, your statements I quoted earlier are false, I've shown them to be false and will do it again if I have to. Your denials don't change that, they only force me to go to the effort to prove the point once again. That you refuse to acknowledge even one false statement, even when it was shown to you in black and white, says volumes about your honesty.

263 posted on 04/16/2002 5:38:03 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
Accusing me of deliberate lies is weird. What could possibly be my motive?

We've already covered this. I don't care about your motives. I'm only observing your behavior.

No, we haven't 'already covered this'. You are being a liar about calling me liar. - Which is a goofy, infantile ploy.

You told falsehoods.

No, I have not lied, and you have not established that. -- Saying so is a juvenile lie on your part.

*Why* you do that doesn't change affect whether you did do that. I've also explicitly made it clear that you may not be doing so deliberately. So your characterization here is yet another one isn't it?

Spare me your hypocritical rationalizations over socalled 'non-deliberate' lies.

The fact is, your statements I quoted earlier are false, I've shown them to be false and will do it again if I have to. Your denials don't change that, they only force me to go to the effort to prove the point once again. That you refuse to acknowledge even one false statement, even when it was shown to you in black and white, says volumes about your honesty.

The fact that you babble on incessently of 'showing' false statements, of non existent proofs, only detracts from your efforts to appear honest, not mine.

Give up this silly effort. -- I am not your enemy. -- At #224, I flagged shooter, and re-explained my original position on this thread, in an effort to end it. You started with the 'liar' BS shortly after. -- I have no idea *why*.

264 posted on 04/16/2002 6:33:43 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Republican_Strategist
More than a thorn in his side it seems. . .and more than a little strange.

That said from reading the above; did not bother to check this creation. . .really do not want to go there

265 posted on 04/16/2002 6:38:26 PM PDT by cricket
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To: mlo
Accusing me of deliberate lies is weird. What could possibly be my motive?

We've already covered this. I don't care about your motives. I'm only observing your behavior.

No, we haven't 'already covered this'. You are being a liar about calling me liar. - Which is a goofy, infantile ploy.

You told falsehoods.

No, I have not lied, and you have not established that. -- Saying so is a juvenile lie on your part.

*Why* you do that doesn't change affect whether you did do that. I've also explicitly made it clear that you may not be doing so deliberately. So your characterization here is yet another one isn't it?

Spare me your hypocritical rationalizations over socalled 'non-deliberate' lies.

The fact is, your statements I quoted earlier are false, I've shown them to be false and will do it again if I have to. Your denials don't change that, they only force me to go to the effort to prove the point once again. That you refuse to acknowledge even one false statement, even when it was shown to you in black and white, says volumes about your honesty.

The fact that you babble on incessently of 'showing' false statements, of non existent proofs, only detracts from your efforts to appear honest, not mine.

Give up this silly effort. -- I am not your enemy. -- At #226 - [CORRECTION], I flagged shooter, and re-explained my original position on this thread, in an effort to end it. You started with the 'liar' BS shortly after. -- I have no idea *why*.

266 posted on 04/16/2002 6:39:47 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: riley1992
The fact that someone felt the need to "counter" the things Rivero is saying (and the site is obviously the product of mucho man-hours) tells me that maybe Michael is stepping on some powerful toes.

I enjoyed his many posts. He certainly wasn't always right, but he WAS right some of the time. I agree with his precept: "The biggest conspiracy of all is to claim that there are NO conspiracies."

267 posted on 04/16/2002 6:54:55 PM PDT by berned
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