Ban Handguns Now (VPC launches new web site)

Violence Policy Center ^ | March 28th 2002 | VPC press release

[Squantos]

The book is available at bookstores nationwide........I'll have to do my best to muck up all things dewey on my local book stores shelves this weekend if I find such seditious socialist pornography..........just fighting terrorism in my own way when I find it !

BTW Who funds these SOB's ?

Stay safe !

[copycat]

Well, to start with banning handguns wouldn't stop any suicides...taking pills is just as easy. And I'm sure a lot of those deaths are gangland deaths, where they wouldn't obey the ban anyway.

Meanwhile EVERY life saved by a handgun is a legitimate stat, and from my reading, there's a LOT more than 20,000 a year.

BOTTOM LINE...Banning handguns would cause more deaths than it saved.

FReegards...

[Dan from Michigan]

VPC - Total Ban, always has been.
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence - ALSO a total ban. They changed their name from "National Coalition to Ban Handguns" but still wants a ban.
"CSGV supports a ban on the importation, manufacture, sale and transfer of handguns and assault weapons, with reasonable exceptions for police, military, security personnel, gun clubs, and antique and collectable firearms stored in inoperable condition. Hunting weapons, such as shotguns and rifles, would be unaffected by these bans."

Brady Campaign - Formerly HCI. Pete Shields called for a ban a long time ago. They currently deny publically that they want a total ban. They do want a ban on 'assault weapons', 'saturday night specials' and want att generals to have total control over them, and to sue the gun manufacturers.........everything but. They were NOT renamed from the coalition to ban handgunes. That is CSGV. That doesn't mean they don't want one though.....

[Drew68]

I'll bet that 20,000 deaths is fuzzy math anyhow.

Actually, I'll buy this figure. Of course, I'd say about 18,000 of these are gang-banging thugs shooting each other and gang-banging thugs getting shot by the police, thus not really causing me to lose sleep in anguish over the "gun-epidemic" in America.

[Drew68]

Thanks for the info. It's hard for me to keep track of all these cretins. It's easy for me to get one group mixed up with the other. And like you pointed out, I'm sure all these groups secretly wouldn't mind a total ban and confiscation of all guns, and are probably applauding VPC for being so forthright. I'm certain they are paying close attention to VPC's efforts as so to test the waters on how far they can go in public.

[VRWC_Member428]

Rodney the Rapist says: "Yes, we should ban handguns! After all, they were banned in England. And as a result, my line of work has become far less dangerous."

VPC Launches New Web Site, www.bancarsnow.org, in Conjunction With Release of Paperback Edition of Latest Book, Every Car Is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Cars

WASHINGTON, DC—In conjunction with release of the paperback edition of its most recent book, Every Car is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Cars (The New Press, 2001), the Violence Policy Center (VPC) today launched a new citizen-action web site, www.bancarsnow.org. Each year cars claim more than 31,000 American lives in suicides, vehicular homicides, and unintentional wrecks. The unique qualities that make cars ideally suited for violent death and injury—speed coupled with following too close—are illustrated daily on American highways.

Josh Sugarmann, VPC executive director and author of the book, states, "The single bloody thread that runs through our nation's car death and injury crisis is the easy accessibility we allow our citizens to the most lethal categories of machinery, with automobieles at the top of the list. After each horrific wreck a predictable pattern emerges, we quickly look for a loophole to be plugged, a limited law that could be better enforced, or other `common sense' solutions, while never stepping back to look at the big picture: the free flow of motor vehicles—and in particular cars—in our nation. America's car violence problem will not be solved by licensing and registration, the Club, or lamentations over the evil of alcohol. Tragic wrecks are America's future until we eliminate cars, the tools that make such violence possible."

The new VPC web site—which contains studies, analyses, survey data, and useful links—will be updated continuously. Bancarsnow.org is launched with the recognition that more than 30 percent of the American public supports a ban on cars, with this number rising to as high as 50 percent in the wake of horrific wrecks. Adds Sugarmann, "Our goal is simple: to engage and activate dedicated vehicle control supporters. Bancarsnow.org will give voice to vehicle control advocates who have grown weary of limited half-measures that may offend few, but fail to accomplish much."

Every Car is Aimed at You: The Case For Banning Cars covers a wide range of issues in 10 chapters, including: An Introduction to Cars; The History of Cars; Cars and Suicide; Cars and Self-Defense; Cars and Crime; Cars and Women drivers; Cars and Youth; Cars and Minorities; Cars in Public; and, The Case for Banning Cars. The book is available at bookstores nationwide.

[Drew68]

I'll have to do my best to muck up all things dewey on my local book stores shelves this weekend if I find such seditious socialist pornography

LOL!

Actually a better remedy is to hide them. Grab one copy and stash it spine-out in the cooking section, another in the gardening section and so on. Then when someone comes in looking for it, the retailer will punch it up on his computer and see that he has 8 copies available but can't seem to find any of them. Thus the book doesn't get sold and it is unlikely he will order more copies. Do this in the library as well.

The liberals have been doing this to conservative titles forever --especially in college libraries. It is dirty but effective. We need to play just as dirty.

[Squantos]

I was going to put em in the "gun" section........they'd never sell there :o)

Stay safe !

[Waco]

Guns serve the felons quite well. Why encourage everyone to have one???

[hattend]

where yesterday eight were killed and 19 wounded by a French citizen wielding a legally possessed handgun

I don't know if they have a round limit over in France but I would assume this guy had to reload anywhere from 2 to 6 times for 27 shots (assuming 100% hit rate). Imagine if just one of those French victims had been armed.

[hattend]

The gun banners have finally shed the pretense that all they seek is "reasonable" gun control.

Yep, pretty brazen and out in the open now. Time to start calling them liars every time they say it isn't about taking your guns...the proof is now in the open.

[Badray]

I mean, come on, ol' Josh Sugarmann and Sarah Brady wouldn't lie, would they?

Sheesh. They wouldn't lie. They have just come to a new realization. They have grown. (Barfing)

[Badray]

"Guns serve the felons quite well. Why encourage everyone to have one???"

Felons are not going to obey the law. They will be armed regardless of the law. That's what criminals do - they break the law, they commit crime. Gun control laws only serve to prevent the law abiding citizens the opportunity to defend themselves.

[Threepwood]

Personally, I'm not too surprised. Liberals lied about their agenda in the past? Shocking. I wonder what brought about this little gem of honesty?Its also charming that they listed the "stormfront" website as a pro-gun special interest group. I wish these people would find something productive to do.

[Drew68]

Its also charming that they listed the "stormfront" website as a pro-gun special interest group.

I noticed that. They list it under "Pro-Gun Special Interests." Lovely. Then they list a bunch of physician groups under "Organizations Working to Reduce Firearms Violence."

Nice play on words.

Josh Sugarfag ("Man" doesn't belong in his name) is a punk.

[TomB]

Actually, I'll buy this figure. Of course, I'd say about 18,000 of these are gang-banging thugs shooting each other and gang-banging thugs getting shot by the police, thus not really causing me to lose sleep in anguish over the "gun-epidemic" in America.

IIRC, about half of the total is suicides. I don't have the source in front of me, I'll post it later if I get the chance.

[Drew68]

IIRC, about half of the total is suicides.

You could be right, but if we've got 10,000 people a year shooting themselves, then we've got a real problem on our hands and it ain't guns.

[TomB]

You could be right, but if we've got 10,000 people a year shooting themselves, then we've got a real problem on our hands and it ain't guns.

Once again the numbers escape me, but "gunless" societies such as Japan have much, much higher suicide rate than the US.

I guess if people want to off themselves, they'll find a way to do it.

[thepitts]

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