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How to End the Campaign Contribution Mess
Bryan Alexander | 03/04/02 | Bryan Alexander

Posted on 03/04/2002 12:32:50 PM PST by Bryan24

I'm sick of hearing how all the poiticians want "campaign finance reform". They argue and argue and argue and argue and argue. Nothing gets done. Well, here is an easy solution.

1. Amend the US Constitution to make US Senators appointed by state legislatures. This is the way it was originally devised. The Senate was to be for issues that were primarily State issues.

This is where all of the big money is spent, outside of the Presidency. Make them appointed by the State legislatures and the big money leaves the Senators.

2. Amend the US Constitution to make Representatives to the House elected on a 30,000 to 1 ratio, as originally intended. This would put the size of the US house of Representatives at slightly less than 10,000.

Also, make a part of that Constitutional amendment language which prohibits:
a. Any candidate from receiving ANY funds from outside of his district.
b. Any candidate from receiving any money from anyone other than private citizens. NO CORPORATE OR PAC MONEY.

3. Eliminate all taxes on businesses. All taxes should be paid by private citizens. This is a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."

4. Eliminate the 7.5 percent tax that businesses pay on employees for SS. Make individuals pay the tax themselves.

5. Eliminate Federal Income Tax Withholding. At the end of the tax year, each citizen pays his tax bill in full.


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I believe if these simple measures were taken, there would be more reform in Washington than has occured in the past 100 years. What do you think?
1 posted on 03/04/2002 12:32:50 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: Bryan24
--just what we need --ten thousand Congressional buffoons meddling in our lives--
2 posted on 03/04/2002 12:36:25 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: Bryan24
How about #6 "Stop bringing the federal government into every aspect of our lives" -- if there weren't so much money riding on a government contract or not having the feds breathe down your neck for any infraction then business owners wouldn't give money to them.
3 posted on 03/04/2002 12:36:29 PM PST by lelio
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To: Bryan24
Actually, that is the way the framers wrote the Constitution. It was changed in the 17th Amendment which is why everything is now Federalized.
4 posted on 03/04/2002 12:40:33 PM PST by killroy
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To: Bryan24
1.No income or property taxes. Just sales tax and tarrifs and fees for service.

2. A constitutional limit on government spending -- a fixed percentage of GDP. Actually if you put this limit on spending it doesn't matter what the source of tax revenue is. It would settle out in a few years.

6 posted on 03/04/2002 12:42:23 PM PST by js1138
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To: Bryan24
I agree.

If you eliminate the election, you eliminate the need for campaigns and campaign finances.

I had some more ideas on this in The Elegant Campaign Finance Reform.

-PJ

7 posted on 03/04/2002 12:46:55 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: js1138
what control THEIR spending--- they would lock you up as a insane terrorist LOL
8 posted on 03/04/2002 12:51:30 PM PST by Nat Turner
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To: Bryan24
I do not buy into the idea that all that money in campaigns is bad. The money represents the people. The innovative, hard working mind is represented by that money a little more than the fat, couch potato drug addict type. One is the lifeblood of the economy, the other leaches off of it so I don't see that as a problem.

If we could undo the SS stick-up that'd be great. However, at this point, I would not be in favor of putting 7.5 more tax across the board on the tax payer. Better that it come out in the form of higher prices. Part of our family income is self-employeed money that is taxed the full SS amount. It is CRUSHING! Trust me.

If states appointed Senators it would be the same thing just in a different form.

Sorry, but this idea gives too much credit to the unsubstantiated complaints of the liberal left. It also does not address the fact that speech takes money just like the Press takes money to function. It's just a fact of life.

9 posted on 03/04/2002 12:59:40 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Bryan24
Interesting ideas. Don't agree with all of them, but some are good. However, regarding the Social Security tax, forget paying it ourselves ... eliminate it altogether. I don't plan on seeing a dime of SS when I retire (I'm 32).
10 posted on 03/04/2002 1:01:25 PM PST by Gophack
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To: RAT Patrol
The money represents the people.

Are you a campaign finance officer for someone? Just curious.

11 posted on 03/04/2002 1:44:36 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: itsahoot
No, but I donate to several causes important to me. Other than my vote, it is the only power I have. Without free political speech I cannot even make an informed vote. I do not trust mass media to tell all sides equally. Let the hearer decide the value of the speech.

If money corrupts then the Press is corrupt because it is big business too. Giving them a monopoly wouldn't help then would it? We have laws against taking bribes and courts to do the prosecuting. I don't see anyone in court. All I see are a bunch of gossipy accusations with political and financial motivations.

12 posted on 03/04/2002 2:23:09 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: lelio
How about #6 "Stop bringing the federal government into every aspect of our lives"

Imagine if the Ninth and Tenth Amendments were enforced as written...

...I'd guess roughly 50% of everything the Federal government does would be declared unconstitutional, including DOE, HUD, and XYZ.

Probably a higher percentage but I am using a 'conservative' estimate.

--Boris

13 posted on 03/04/2002 2:23:41 PM PST by boris
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To: Bryan24
I think you are absolutely correct.
14 posted on 03/04/2002 2:28:05 PM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: RAT Patrol
We The People still have our own House Of Representatives. The Senate elections are the most expensive of all, and there are 33 of them every two years. Why?

The reason that we have two senators from each state is so that the state can have equal representation in THEIR house, the Senate. When the seventeenth amendment was passed, the Senate was effectively turned into a super house of representatives.

If you let the state legislatures appoint the senators, then you will have senators who are more attentive to their own state's issues, you will not have "carpetbaggers," you won't have enormous amounts of money being spent on a few legislators who will be doing the appointing, you will likely have someone from the state house appointed as senator (who is involved in state affairs) and (hopefully) is less tied to party-line politics, you will have the citizens of the state more involved in state campaigns since that is how they will affect the choice of senator, and on and on and on.

If states appointed the senators, do you think it would be less likely that one man from South Dakota would be allowed to invent a 60-vote super-majority which is really a forty-vote minority rule?

-PJ

15 posted on 03/04/2002 2:38:26 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Political Junkie Too
You make some valid points on the Senate appointment issue. I just look at the appointment of judges and wonder what kind of smear campaign it would produce, with the aid of the liberal media, and the general public under a gag order known as "reform".
16 posted on 03/04/2002 3:28:19 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: RAT Patrol
It depends. I don't think that there would be any kind of confirmation committees to do the smearing the way that it works at the federal level, where the executive appoints and the legislature confirms..

This would be strictly state business. I honestly don't know how the states did it prior to 1913. I can't say whether the governor appoints and the legislature confirms, or the legislature votes on their own. I suspect that the governor had nothing to do with it since the Constitution states that the legislatures do the appointing.

-PJ

17 posted on 03/04/2002 3:51:40 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Bryan24
Flash: Elite Socialist Party Announce Sure Fire Campaign Finance Reform

Socialist Democrat leaders announced today that in an effort to stamp out election fraud and campaign finance reforms once and for all...all elections have been suspended. In a statement released to CNN, the leadership council aswaged fears by insureing that until appropriate points of view are represented, the interests of the coddled would be maintained

Daschle: "The continued corruption and abuse of election procedures as we know them has led the Senate to move swiftly. I have mandated legislation that will outlaw elections until electoral safeguards can be studied, and legislation implamented. The law calls for the convening of a panel to study and make recomendations. House minority leader Dick Gephardt has been appointed to head up the panel. CNN's Larry King will host Daschle and Gephardt tonite to discuss this landmark move. Said Larry King: "This is a rare opportunity to showcase progressive action by our leadership in protecting the collective from narrowly focused interests groups"..."King also said that Administration officials were unavailable for comment until they had concluded a meeting with Daschle and Gephardt in the Oval office.

18 posted on 03/04/2002 4:04:31 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: antaresequity
I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or what.

Political Junkie Too hit the nail on the head. IMO, these reforms lead to other massive reforms. This was to provoke discussion.

19 posted on 03/05/2002 4:38:20 AM PST by Bryan24
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To: rellimpank
The problem now is that we have 535 buffoons meddling in our lives and they are so powerful that the average citizen cannot approach them. Look at the effects the change to the ratio of House members would effect.

First, you would NOT have these huge staffs in Washington and in each district. In fact, you would likely end up with several different congressmen sharing the same staff. That would promote working for legitimate affairs and help end a congressman using his staff for personal and political purposes.

Second, if a congressman is answereable to a much smaller group of people, it is easier for these people to get access to him and let him know their feelings on particular issues. If we have a population of 280 million, that means a single Rep. is trying to represent 643,000 people. That is TOTALLY ridiculous.

Third, with a House of 10,000 members, any laws passed would much more likly reflect the true feelings of the people. And I would venture a guess that the number of laws passed would decrease exponentially. Logistically, this would also make the house be in session less.

20 posted on 03/05/2002 4:49:32 AM PST by Bryan24
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