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To: VadeRetro
"I see you have a nice collection of small pictures, arranged in chronological order, and affixed to a narrow strip of celluloid. An impressive display, but there is no evidence here. You claim these are moving pictures - but which picture shows the motion?"

The joke is cute, but misses the point. The evidence at hand is comprised of fossils in distinct stages. Scientifically, this evidence can support both punctuated equilibrium (aka Evolution) and Intelligent Design. It would take different evidence to refute either theory. If you can't produce different evidence, then you can't refute either theory, QED.

One could look at the various models of automobiles buried in junkyards and point out how smoothly some models changed from year to year, yet pretending that cars self-evolved without Intelligent Designers based upon that data would get you laughed out of any serious discussion on the planet. Likewise, the same can be said for drawing overly broad conclusions from our fossil data.

256 posted on 03/04/2002 5:33:11 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
One could look at the various models of automobiles buried in junkyards and point out how smoothly some models changed from year to year . . .

Some models, sometimes, but that's not even the norm.

Perhaps you're familiar with the Duane Gish strawman parody of punctuated equilibrium. "One day a dinosaur supposedly gave birth to a bird! But where was another bird for that one to mate with?"

I don't have to tell you that punk-eek isn't really like that. But Intelligent Design is like that. One year, Ford discontinues rear-wheel drive sedans and out comes the all new Taurus or whatever. Boom!

But nature's Intelligent Designer never makes a big new design release. There are some mechanisms in plants and asexuals that do produce single-generation speciation, but these are limited in effect. Let me add that these are well-understood naturalistic causes (polyploidy, hybridization).

ID doesn't say the designer has to mimic evolution, but He always does. ID doesn't say why.

259 posted on 03/04/2002 5:48:51 PM PST by VadeRetro
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