Posted on 02/05/2002 12:58:18 PM PST by Double Eagle Sword of Justice
It is well known that Hitler was a strange and aloof person. He had well documented perversions. These texts can be documented and found on line. The Hitler texts go on forever. I have a hard time believing something written such a short time ago. I would think it's more speculation, than fact.
If any one is interested, don't venture past a publication of 1960, or so. They tend to get diluted and facts are few, and far between.
I don't have a "thing" for the Third Reich, or Adolf Hitler. I studied this, completely, in college for 2 papers in History (when they taught that in college). My intrigue with the subject went back to a story my Dad told me about liberating Ubergammergau (sp), a Nazi concentration camp. I couldn't believe that men could do that to other men. Then I saw it on TV..."The World At War". Daddy was right, they really did that. I had to find all about that, cause it was so against what I had been taught (know you enemy).
My point here is: Hitler could have been gay, straight, bi-sexual, or celebet, it wouldn't have mattered. First, and formost, the man was a brutal, and sadistic man. He was the first showing of the evil anti-Christ. He came to kill all Jews, after that he would have killed all Catholics, then he would have gone for the racially "impure". By that time he would have had all the "support" that he would have needed. That meant, if you weren't completely arian you were a dead man.
The thing that history teaches about Hitler is that, if one man can rule is over millions of people, alot of those people are going to die. Think about THAT! In reading all the volumes of the Third Reich, and Hitler, one thing came to mind: How could a man, a real man, a citizen, a patriot of his country do this to his fellow citizens. I found the answer! Hitler gave them a reason, then he talked them into it, then he lead them (willingly) to do it. Hate is easier to preace than God, and that's the damned shame of the Third Reich.
Know your enemy Patriots, history repeats...again...and, again!
---max
Actually, I would dispute that.
Hitler has the reputation of being the "undisputed king" of atrocities, partially because the people he picked on had the strength, the courage and the resources through their astute business and political acumen to remind all of us over and over again of what occurred in Germany circa 1936-45.
However, when it comes to pure numbers, Joe Stalin has Adolf beat all to hell.
Which to me always is evidence of the left's refusal to judge history on an equal basis. Specifically:
Hitler/Nazi's were or are regarded as being "right wing" (ignoring for the moment that this is disputable).
Jews, politically, are Leftists/Democrats.
Hitler = 'devil incarnate'/vile murderer/worse in history, etc.
Joe Stalin = 'Uncle Joe'
Joe Stalin was a socilist/communist/leftist
Joe Stalin killed his own and those oppossed to a Socialist state
Joe Stalin was responsible for the death of over 20,000,000
So why is Hitler accorded the title of "undisputed atrocity king?"
When it comes to vile, disgusting human beings how can one rate Hitler over Joe or vice-a-versa?
Yes, this kind of ticks me off because by placing Hitler alone in this category, we ignore the facts regarding Stalin, and how the left, given the opportunity can devolve into something even worse then Hitler.
Never forget hitler. Never again.
Never forget stalin and never again.
What's up with that?
Well, here's the deal. How much credit do you give the whole article when it's pretty well-known that Hitler was a front line soldier and that he won the highest award for bravery that an enlisted man could win?
Hitler was actually IN the hospital wounded at the end of the war. He was temporarily blinded by gas.
So I wonder about the rest of the article.
Walt
Roehm was killed and the Brown Shirts purged to placate the army. That is the standard interpretation. Then Hitler flanked the army with the creation of the SS.
Walt
It is yet another example of your desire to display photographs of men engaged in homosexual displays of affection.
Obsession?
Yes, of course.
That must be it.
True and false. American versions of "right wing" and "left wing" don't apply very well to Germany.
In Weimar Germany, all the popular parties were some flavor of socialist. In Germany there has never been a laissez faire economic tradition, as there has been in Britain and America. From the days of the Holy Roman Empire, to the days of Kaiser, government always had a large role in German economic life. By the time of the Weimar Republic, there was no popular call for the government to get out of the economy. There was simply fierce disagreement on what form the government's involvement should take.
The extremists (who literally battled each other in the street in massive brawls) were divided between the national socialists and the international communists. The National Socialists were hyper-nationalist, but essentially socialist (more socialist before the Nazi party came to power than afterward - when Hitler had the most stridently socialist party leaders killed). The Communists were avowedly anti-nationalist, wanting to unite all the workers of the world into a common nation.
I would rate the acceptance or confidence level of the article at head to about 20% and label it mostly bogus.
I would tend to lump this book, "Hidden Hitler" together w/ others that purport to show one historic figure or another as being homosexual; such as a similar book about mark twian. They have a clear objective and will use innuendo and inference to make their point. Their historic value is minimal.
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