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Saddam may have missing Stealth-detecting radar systems
World Tribune ^ | 1/14/02

Posted on 01/14/2002 1:33:24 PM PST by truthandlife

U.S. officials say Iraq may have acquired two Tamara radar systems which have been reported missing in the Czech Republic.

The officials said the regime of President Saddam Hussein has been conducting negotiations with companies in Eastern Europe to procure a system that could detect and respond to U.S. stealth bombers, such as the B-2 F-117. The F-117 and the B-2 have been used by the United States in Afghanistan.

The Bush administration is concerned that Baghdad might have smuggled a radar system from Eastern Europe in what could mark a surprise in any U.S. military campaign against Iraq. Officials said Iraq nearly bought a $300 million radar system from the Czech Republic in 1997. The deal was blocked by the government in Prague.

U.S. officials said the Pentagon has assessed that Iraq has gained new anti-aircraft capabilities. They said this includes the ability to detect and shoot down U.S. and British aircraft. The officials said Washington has instituted changes in electronic warfare systems to better protect its aircraft.

Last week, the London-based Sunday Telegraph reported that two Tamara radar systems sought by Iraq earlier have gone missing. The newspaper said the radars — manufactured by the defunct Czech firm Tesla-Pardubice — might have been acquired by Iraq.

Over the weekend, Saddam met his military chiefs and urged them to bolster defenses against enemy attack. The president also called on his military to forge cooperation with Baghdad's allies in the Arab world.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; radar; stealth; tamararadar
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1 posted on 01/14/2002 1:33:25 PM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife, Poohbah
Oh, crap. Well, looks like we program some HARMs for that site, THEN send the F-117s and B-2s in.
2 posted on 01/14/2002 1:35:46 PM PST by hchutch
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To: truthandlife
If they can be detected, they would no longer be called "Stealth" bombers.

It is my understanding that the shape of the object determines is reflectivity. How will this radar system pick up the planes?

3 posted on 01/14/2002 1:37:20 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: truthandlife
this was already posted.
4 posted on 01/14/2002 1:37:51 PM PST by veryconernedamerican
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To: veryconernedamerican
I am sorry. I put in the search and it did not come up.
5 posted on 01/14/2002 1:40:31 PM PST by truthandlife
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To: Bryan24
More to the point, where did they get $300 million??? I thought everyone over there was starving to death???
6 posted on 01/14/2002 1:41:30 PM PST by DJ88
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To: truthandlife
are the Romulans now aiding saddam?
7 posted on 01/14/2002 1:43:17 PM PST by isom35
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To: Bryan24
It is a system that is not truely radar, but a passive system built on microwave detection technology. It looks at the sky and looks for any interruptions in microwave transmissions. Think of it as looking at a canvas, and any blemishes on the canvas would indicate an object. Many experts think the Yugoslavs used this and that is how they were able to shoot the Stealth fighter down in the Kosovo conflict.
8 posted on 01/14/2002 1:43:28 PM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: DJ88
Now we know WHY their starving to death. We need to do the world a favor and just go kill Saddam.
9 posted on 01/14/2002 1:43:59 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: DJ88
I thought everyone over there was starving to death???

Only some of them. Saddam's court actually needs, and have purchased, several liposuction machines.

10 posted on 01/14/2002 1:44:04 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: ChinaThreat
I can think of a couple of ways to spoof that, and I'm not even a radar specialist or a military planner.

I'm willing to bet that the F-117 that got hit in Kosovo was visually sighted and then brought down.

11 posted on 01/14/2002 1:47:42 PM PST by Bryan24
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To: Bryan24
Yeah, I agree. Just for the fun of it. :-)
12 posted on 01/14/2002 1:51:03 PM PST by DJ88
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To: Bryan24
Like I said, its not radar and its passive, so you can't tell if they are using it or not. The only possible recourse to a system like this is overwhelming microwave sensors which can be very dangerous for everyone around including the ones jamming. But never say never right.
13 posted on 01/14/2002 1:52:19 PM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: Cachelot
This is true. What a farce.
14 posted on 01/14/2002 1:52:30 PM PST by DJ88
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To: truthandlife
Of interest a related article with more detail was posted in the UK Telegraph recently, though.

6 Jan 2002: US fears Iraq radar can see stealth plane

15 posted on 01/14/2002 1:52:48 PM PST by flamefront
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To: truthandlife
This is why our assault on Iraq should begin and end with ICBM's. Let Iraq deal with tracking them and enjoying the benefits of nuclear fusion up close. Heck, close isn't really that crucial when you're dealing with megatons.
16 posted on 01/14/2002 1:58:12 PM PST by LenS
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To: Ada Coddington
Hey, Ada!!!

How big a water purification plant could they have bought on the black market??

17 posted on 01/14/2002 1:58:28 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Bryan24
The system works by detecting minute disturbances in tv and radio waves as an object passes through the air. This makes it passive, i.e. no electromagnetic emissions and therefore VERY hard to find and destroy.
18 posted on 01/14/2002 1:59:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: ChinaThreat
My personal opinion is that it was a similar system developed by the Chinese that brought down our F-117. Thus the reason for the "accidental" bombing of the Chinese embassy a few days later.
19 posted on 01/14/2002 2:01:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: LenS
I gotta go with you on this one. Baghdad won't be a problem after that, and it doesn't matter how many doubles saddam has!! Nuke 'em til they glow!!! Then we go in and take the oil for ourselves!!
20 posted on 01/14/2002 2:02:52 PM PST by Aric2000
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