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To: 2sheep
Ok, It's nice that we agree on more than I thought. My response was more toward those who think that a teacher must never be questioned (i.e. don't touch God's anointed), and those who think that Bible Study is unGodly.

I will checkout that website you mentioned another time, when its not so late, and I'm more awake.

As to whither Hanegraaff is also a false teacher. (And by false teacher, we mean someone who is wrong on major doctrine, not minor doctrine or has bad motives.) I would argue that Hank is OK. He is annoying at times, and sometimes gives bad answers to callers on The Bible Answer Man. If it helps consider some of the guests he has had on his show: RC Sproul, Norm Geisler, James White, John MacArthur, etc. These men are regarded as sound Biblical teachers. I don't think they would be on his show if he was leading people astray.

You mentioned a guy named Scott Hofstee, who said that selling ministries implied a false teacher? That's a little off the wall (if I'm understanding you right.) It simply does not fit the definition of a false teacher. He (Hofstee) needs to provide a Biblical arguement to support that statement. (Having a prophecy come true is not proof, see Deut 13:1-3). And didn't Paul talk about people preaching the gospel for selfish reasons. I believe that Paul said he was glad that the gospel was getting preach.

134 posted on 01/03/2002 7:48:56 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Sci Fi Guy; Havoc; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr
>>>You mentioned a guy named Scott Hofstee, who said that selling ministries implied a false teacher? That's a little off the wall (if I'm understanding you right.)  It simply does not fit the definition of a false teacher.  He (Hofstee) needs to provide a Biblical arguement to support that statement. (Having a prophecy come true is not proof, see Deut 13:1-3).

No, I think he is right and it is a prophecy that HAS COME TRUE as the fulness of the gentiles has come in and got is lopping off the branch of the apostate church which has fallen away.  Look at the degree of spiritual deafness in America!  It is like thick darkness that can be felt.  Do you see any ministry now days that doesn't have its hand out for money or for a love offering or a place to type in your credit card number?  Those are false!  They have gone for the gold, er...the Mammon, and He says you cannot serve two masters or you will love one and hate the other.  It is God or gold and they choose the latter, and like the song says, "the Father and Son hit the last train for the coast."  Bye, bye, Miss American Pie!

Pr 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

See also:  

for filthy lucre's sake...1Ti 3:3,8; Tit 1:7,11; 1Pe 5:2

make merchandise of you...and Isa 56:5-11; Jer 7:11; Ho 12:7-8; Mt 21:13; Mr 11:17; Ac 19:24-27; 1Ti 6:5; 2Pe 2:3,14-15

error of Balaam...2Pe 2:15; Jude 1:11; Re 2:14

>>>And didn't Paul talk about people preaching the gospel for selfish reasons. I believe that Paul said he was glad that the gospel was getting preached.

There are many gospels and many other Jesus' being preached today and the spirit of ecumenicism says they are all okay which is pluralism and the middle way about to be spewed out.  Jesus and his disciples said they are not all the same and that the way is narrow (difficult) that leads to eternal life.  Not all preaching is okay because the many on the broad way preach false gospels.  Jesus said rather that "this" gospel be preached.  We have contended firmly that is a gospel wherein He is the Head and His sheep hear His voice.  They follow Him in obedience because they love Him, know Him and are known by Him and His Father and look for the blessed hope of their salvation, THE END OF THEIR FAITH, not the beginning.  Truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

What is a Christian?

Who will be saved?

False and True Prophets

148 posted on 01/03/2002 8:17:19 PM PST by 2sheep
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