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To: super175
>>the Communist Party (whether or not they live up to the title of 'communist' is a whole different matter)is absolutely right no matter what.

No, the CCP has publicly recognized and apologized for the mistakes in the past. That means teh CCP knows it is not 100% right.

>>No one else can have power of any kind EXCEPT for the Party.

In the market economy the power comes from the wealth. As the capitalists join in the party, the power is shifting from the "woking class" to the "oppersssive class".

You can say whatever it is that you say as long as it does not challenge the Party.

>>potential challengers are mowed down.

It depends on how you challenge. Deng Xaioping challenged Maoism and he succeeded.

>>It is unlike our version of it where the 'capitalism' starts at the grass roots with personal rights and entrepreneurship at is core.

If you examine the history of PRC's capitalism, it did start from the grass roots. It began with the privitization of land of a villige in 1978 when the party members risked their lives to distribute the land to the peasants.

20 posted on 01/05/2002 6:41:04 PM PST by Lake
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To: Lake
The guys who challenge the party, and are successful, are challenging it from the inside out.

Anything percieved as 'outside-in' is not well recieved.

Seeing how the first statement in this post is true, that is why things are not always as they seem. While labeled "communist" Party, that might not be true in the real ideologically restrictive sense of the word, at least some elements that is.

That is kind of what I have been saying all along.

China is not a big one thought one thinking kind of place. America has some friends in China, especially those who are not tied up in Communist thought, Mao etc. America also has enemies in China who ARE tied up in such things such as beligerant radical thought and beliefs of the boogey man out to get them. The good thing for the former group is that reform is in vogue. Its been prooven to work, and the other has been prooven not to improve anyone's life. But hey, since when did being wrong stop a revolution or a fight over who has power?

It definately leaves mixed feelings sometimes.

21 posted on 01/05/2002 9:08:33 PM PST by super175
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