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To: Cap'n Crunch
You see, seeing how I know that Jesus is not and was not the Messiah, and that you and your people like to throw everybody into hellfire that says that line I just said (per your scriptures), I was just wondering how you would respond to a Judaic line of reasoning. I now see. I am officially on the highway to hell. Well, I guess we will all see when the true owner of the universe makes His Presence known again, won't we? You know the One I am talking about.... the Psalmist says the Tetragrammton 'was His name, is His name, and will always be His name'. Lets see .... Yud Heh Vav Heh. Sure doesn't look like 'Jesus' to me.

BTW, You do know that in the occult there is a name for letting the bible fall open to whereever it may in 'answer' to a question or prayer, didn't you? Look it up.... there is a name for it (though I don't remeber stuff like that off the top of my head), and it is used by occultists.

463 posted on 12/23/2001 6:22:38 PM PST by bigcheese
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To: bigcheese
I believe you miss the point entirely. Regarding "judging" this poor young man, which I don't, I leave that to God. God will judge all of us. As St. Michael was quoted in the scripture verse, which I have seen elsewhere as "May God judge you." St. Michael didn't judge, he left it up to God.

However, I believe it immoral and scandalous that adults would go out and get a prostitute for a young man who is on his death bed, or at any time for that matter.

Please don't tell me that the Old Testament is frought with people indulging in sexual pleasures with God smiling down from above.

You may not believe in Jesus, thats your choice, but I believe you do respect the 10 commandments. One of them is "Honor your father and your mother", now if these people had to sneak around mom and dad to get a prostitute, mom and dad probably didn't approve. How is it honoring your father and mother by engaging in such activity?

Or how about "Thou shalt not commit adultery", which the Church understands to encompass the whole of human sexuality.

You will probably reject that as you will reject this from the Catechism: "Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young."

I happen to think that the adults and especially the clergy who condoned and arranged this whole thing will be more responsible than this young man. But I leave the judging up to God.

Its a shame that our over sexed society is getting the better of us. Too bad there wasnt a clergymen who could explain to this young man the value of suffering and the value of presenting himself spotless before God.

Regarding opening the Bible being occultism as you suggest, I learned that from St. Francis of Assissi. He was a great saint of the Catholic Church, had the stigmata of Christ. Interesting fellow.

589 posted on 12/24/2001 5:47:07 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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