Posted on 12/22/2001 8:04:02 AM PST by tpaine
As I said, no matter how you cut that Whig sausage, it still ain't beefsteak.
It's because the Libertarian Party doesn't have any that you would even think to do so.
End of story!
The American Whig Party (roughly from 1834-1856) The Whig Party, in the United States, was for most of its history concerned with promoting internal improvements, such as roads, canals, railroads, deepening of rivers, etc. This was of interest to many Westerners in this period, isolated as they were and in need of markets. Abraham Lincoln was a Whig for most of this period.
Go join VA in the alumafoil section of FR. 120 posted by tpaine
And, Mr. TP, a brief dictionary or encyclopedia reference is entirely inadequate to the task of sorting out the parties by moral principles.
Hello? -- Did I say it was? -- YOU claimed they were comparable. You can't back up your BS.
It's because the Libertarian Party doesn't have any that you would even think to do so.
-- Dozens of entire FR threads are composed of arguments on libertarian principles. You deny reality.
End of story!
And, an end to your credibility.
It is from that point that you no longer have any moral principles that can withstand the slightest challenge because, in the end, it will always get back to the question of defending the innocent.
Since ancient times this has been considered a fair test of the legitimacy and utility of any regime of any kind anywhere - and the Libertarians failed the test, as did the Democrats, and as did the Whigs before them.
So you guys can post all the Libertarain cant you wish, but absent a sound first principle, it is meaningless noise.
LOL! Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you!
You haven't had a nice thing to say yet. You on the rag or what? LOL!
Thomas Paine would be proud of you1 NOT! LOL!
Absolute sickening crap. You are disgusting in your fanatical hatred.
I'm not a party member, and I don't know the exact wording on their platform regarding abortion, but your slur above is a pitiful lie.
You look like, and are, a fool.
But do tell me, what should I be 'nice' about?
I'm not a party member, and I don't know the exact wording on their platform regarding abortion, but your slur above is a pitiful lie.
You look like, and are, a fool."
And since the essence of my case is that the Libertarian position is not philosophically divorced from its 19th Century twin, the Missouri Compromise, I guess it's up to me to "prove it". So, I went right to their website, did a search for "abortion" and there it was:
http://www.lp.org/organization/history/platform/1998/womerigh.html
We oppose all laws likely to impose restrictions on free choice and private property or to widen tyranny through reverse discrimination.
Recognizing that abortion is a very sensitive issue and that libertarians can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe the government should be kept entirely out of the question, allowing all individuals to be guided by their own consciences.
We oppose all restrictions on the sale of RU 486, and on the sale of menstruation-inducing contragestive pills, which block fertilized eggs from attaching themselves to the womb.
We oppose legislation restricting or subsidizing women's access to abortion or other reproductive health services; this includes requiring consent of the prospective father, waiting periods, and mandatory indoctrination on fetal development, as well as Medicaid or any other taxpayer funding. It is particularly harsh to force someone who believes that abortion is murder to pay for another's abortion.
We also condemn state-mandated abortions.
xxxxxxxx That's as far as I C&Pd, but someone who is speaking ON BEHALF OF the Libertarian party really ought to already know what the party's position is on one of the great live/death social issues of our day.
That way they, themselves could avoid appearing to be a total fool.
BTW, you might find a good US History 101 text and read it thoroughly. Most of the better ones cover the various compromises made over slavery. Most of the arguments made on behalf those compromises are remarkably similar to those made today by the Libertarians and others -
Your own post just made a total fool of you, but your fanaticism blinds you to that fact.
The platform belies your claim that it supports abortion/murder.
And, I have made it clear that I do not speak on BEHALF of the big 'L'.
BTW, you might find a good US History 101 text and read it thoroughly. Most of the better ones cover the various compromises made over slavery. Most of the arguments made on behalf those compromises are remarkably similar to those made today by the Libertarians and others -
So you say? - Prove your point.
All you've done so far is to prove you're a blowhard.
Of course, you being from Kali and all, guess you are used to voting for that kind of garbage. COMMUNISTS! SODOMITES!ANTI-AMERICAN trash! Gun Grabbers! Typified by the Berkeley City Council!
Hell, maybe there is home for another cat in the sack?
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