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Forces declare victory at Tora Bora: But bin Laden not in area,
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| 12/16/2001
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Posted on 12/16/2001 4:03:26 PM PST by Smogger
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To: blam
I agree, osama-yo-mama is toast. Reduced to a steaming pile of smoking protoplasm seeping back under the rock from whence he came.
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posted on
12/16/2001 7:12:33 PM PST
by
placebo
To: Smogger
We were told at the beginning of this that there were things we would know about, and things we would never know about. I think the status of UBL is one of those things we will never know about.
There is work to be done, there are terrorist cells in some 60 countries that MUST be wiped out and as long as UBL is "out there" the fight will continue.
Do I think we'll be struck again? Yes. Do I know when? Yes, right before we wipe them from the face of the earth.
To: Smogger
Usama "Fight-to-the-death-jihad-for-Allah" Bin Laden is a coward, and leaves martyrdom to others.
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posted on
12/16/2001 7:41:28 PM PST
by
My2Cents
To: Kowdawg
"If we killed or captured Bin Laden, the war, in many peoples minds, would be over. " I have that suspicion also.
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posted on
12/16/2001 7:47:49 PM PST
by
blam
To: placebo
I agree, osama-yo-mama is toast. Reduced to a steaming pile of smoking protoplasm seeping back under the rock from whence he came. Where is Mullah Omar? Where is the rest of the senior Al Qaeda leadership? Hell! Where is the rest of the senior Taliban leadership? This thing is a long way from over...
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posted on
12/16/2001 7:59:02 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: Smogger
You know, the thing that bothers me about this strange absence of Taliban leadership, is that we've killed only one guy that was close to Bin Laden. The one eyed guy who was the doctor or something. How is it, with all the state of the art technology that our military has, and the fact that Bin Laden has radios and a cell phone, that we can't find him?
We might as well have had John Walker tell us where he was this whole time. For the good the intelligence we have received up to now we might as well be looking for Unicorns, Bigfoot, and the Lochness Monster. Heck, let's toss Elvis into the mix.
How is it that Bin Laden can make David Copperfield look like an amateur with his own disappearing act? My opinion is that Bin Laden had help. A lot of it, and I'm willing to go out on a limb here and point a finger at the UN. Had we just walked in, and didn't give these people time to surrender, instead of playing this waiting game, we wouldn't have this mess.
Maybe this will teach our people something about how it is the Taliban works. We were stupid to let these people surrender to us. Total Annihilation is the only way to ensure victory, and guarantee the capture or Death of this madman.
To: MadRobotArtist
A lot this is a byproduct of the strategy of using a proxy army to conduct ground operations. The Northern Alliance is more interested securing and running the country then they are in pursuing Al Qaeda and Taliban leadership. The Eastern Alliance are basically our mercenaries at this point, and the sympathetic Pashtun tribes to the south are interested in shielding the Taliban.
We might have captured more people and intellegence had we used our own ground forces and invaded Afghanistan and attempted to occupy at least portions of Afghanistan. But then their would have been many more US casualties. It is hard to say how many because we don't really have an accurate count of the casualties the Alliance has suffered on our behalf.
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posted on
12/16/2001 10:14:48 PM PST
by
Smogger
To: Smogger
A very good point. I have to agree with you. Wow... Never thought I'd see that one happening...
I stand corrected.
To: Smogger
I think bin Laden is with Allah right now, ie in what Christians call hell.
But in case I am wrong, they are quite right to continue to look for him, or his body, here below.
I think he may have been hit near Kandahar on Nov. 26, and his body might not even have been identified if it was just one of a number which were in pieces there...
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posted on
12/17/2001 10:27:32 AM PST
by
crystalk
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