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U.S. RELEASES VIDEOTAPE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN **Full Text**
US Department of Defense ^ | 12-13-01

Posted on 12/13/2001 7:11:51 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The U. S. government released today a copy of a videotape of Osama bin Laden obtained by U.S. forces in Jalalabad, Afghanistan in late November.

The video was filmed by unknown persons.

"There was no doubt of bin Laden's responsibility for the September 11 attacks before the tape was discovered," said Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

The release of the tape was made after balancing the concerns about any additional pain that could be caused by its release against the value of having the world fully appreciate what we are up against in the war against terrorism.

The tape was released with an English translation and English subtitling, prepared independently by George Michael, translator, Diplomatic Language Services; and Dr. Kassem M. Wahba, Arabic language program coordinator, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University. They collaborated on their translation and compared it with translations done by the U.S. government for consistency. There were no inconsistencies in the translations.

The English translation is on the Web at http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf


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KEYWORDS: michaeldobbs; talibanlist; terrorwar
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To: Illbay; MrBambaLaMamba; Dr.Deth
Rave on, fools.
261 posted on 12/13/2001 11:42:33 AM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
without providing one iota of evidence (to them OR to us).

Here ya go:

Need anything else beyond a videotape of him admitting the results were greater than he planned?

262 posted on 12/13/2001 11:48:09 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: LiberalBassTurds
They wouldn't believe the tape's veracity if old OBL himself flew his bomb laden flying carpet through their living room windows.

... probably another concocted fantasy to be snapped up by the demented Hollywood crowd and coming soon to a theatre near you. What, are you just another wannabe scriptwriter for Disney, or something? You make as much sense.

263 posted on 12/13/2001 11:53:29 AM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: ctdonath2
Put the words 'they actually think' in the inaudible part ... lol
264 posted on 12/13/2001 11:55:21 AM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The sicko terrorist lovers at DU are actually trying to defend Osama over this tape and say its either propaganda or that it could be Osama's double or some other complete BS. What a bunch of traitors. They should be thrown in jail.
265 posted on 12/13/2001 11:55:32 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
Yep. Get those dirty b-tards who still believe in freedom of speech and freedom of thought ... throw them in the slammer and throw away the key. Better yet just strip them of their rights altogether and execute them without Constitutionally guaranteed trials. Now thats a good way to secure your Bill of Rights! Oh, you don't care about your rights? Well, I do.
266 posted on 12/13/2001 12:05:35 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: LarryLied
"Any welcome they still enjoyed in the west is gone."

How I wish I could believe that were true, but it seems to me that even as we get the upper hand more and more in Afghanistan we are inundated with Islam accomodating messages; all this while our kids are being taught about Islam in public schools and Christianity and the Bible are taboo. I guess I just can't be that optimistic. We take the liberals far too seriously in this country instead of sending them to their playpens till they grow up, as we should. We bow down to their demands not to offend even the most offensive of individuals whle the majority of us are subjected to constant offense against all we hold sacred and sensible. When I see us getting the same degree of leverage on the infidels at home that we are gaining over the Taliban over there, then I will be encouraged. Until then, I will just have to continue to pray in the sincere hope that God has heeded the voices of those who have asked Him to stay despite all the voices which have told Him to leave.

267 posted on 12/13/2001 12:05:59 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Yep, I guess you are one of 'that crowd' and as such that comment was directed at you. Glad it stung. Don't hurt your feet stamping them so hard.
268 posted on 12/13/2001 12:07:35 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds
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To: truthseeker101
"I want the Islamic religion nullified and the Middle East destroyed."

I have to agree, although it grieves me greatly that things had to deteriorate to this state of indefensible evil. Thanks again Bill Clinton. So in the spirit of enduring freedom, here's a little "greeting" for bin Laden:


269 posted on 12/13/2001 12:16:05 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Democratic_Machiavelli
As for a coup, I wouldn't put it in those words. I was concerned the attacks were a prelude to a possible invasion, but not a complete overtaking of the government.

On the second thought maybe this Arab meant the coup as the government seizure of special powers in the name of fighting terrorism?

270 posted on 12/13/2001 12:20:28 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: LarryLied
re the info at #9, you are my Hero of the Week. =)
271 posted on 12/13/2001 12:28:08 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
"How many times are we going to anhilate entire nations to get one 'evil' man ... and then after thousands of innocent citizens have perished in the bombings, the alleged perp always gets away."
How many times in our history has one evil man suddenly brought death to thousands of Americans in such a short period of time?  The Taliban government of Afghanistan had plenty of opportunity to turn the terrorists over to us and refused.  They were cool with what he had done.  Did we intentionally target any non-combatants with bombs?  If you don't like what is being done about the terrorist attack, please say what you think should be done to bring those evil people to justice and dissuade others from trying such in the future.

272 posted on 12/13/2001 12:28:30 PM PST by Texas Gal
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
The initial release of names were names the hijackers had in fact used while in the US. IOW, the last known names they used. They were stolen or purchased identities, which is common in 'the field.' (Just as many who have been detained by the FBI lately have been detained for applying for passports and such with false identities.) Not too many people embark upon a criminal enterprise using their own names, of course. Catch up- you are way behind the curve here.

IDENTITY THEFT

273 posted on 12/13/2001 12:34:58 PM PST by piasa
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Shaykh: They (the Americans) were terrified thinking there was a coup.

The proof that they don't know much about the U.S. A coup? By whom? Al Gore?

274 posted on 12/13/2001 12:35:54 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Is it camera angles or does Ossama's nose look smaller?

Maybe he got a nose job, courtesy of an AK-47.

275 posted on 12/13/2001 12:39:15 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; *taliban_list; *Islamic_Violence; *TerrOrWar
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276 posted on 12/13/2001 12:40:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: LiberalBassTurds
>I really get a good laugh at all the conspiracy/doctored tape theorists stamping their collective feet today.

I'm generally a conspiracy nut, but I have no particular thoughts on this tape.

But I would say that it's worth remember in the movie "Cats & Dogs" the animals appear to be talking and saying things. Their lips match their words. Special effects can do that easily today.

This tape is certainly strong evidence that bin Laden did it. No doubt about that.

But doesn't the whole question of "evidence" these days make you nervous? I mean, if someone wanted to fake a video tape these days, don't we all know that it would be as easy for them to do as, say, faking a diary from a lone nut was a decade ago?

I'm not saying this tape was faked. But doesn't everyone find it troubling knowing that it could be fake and there's NO WAY for us to know? I find that troubling...

Mark W.

277 posted on 12/13/2001 12:42:21 PM PST by MarkWar
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To: Texas Gal
How many times in our history has one evil man suddenly brought death to thousands of Americans

I wish I could be convinced that 'one evil man' dwelling in caves thousands of miles from America was really responsible for what happened. OTOH, try to picture ONE EVIL MAN in America, with billions of dollars at his disposal and a few bunker mentality fanatics supporting him, perpetrating such an offense against the governments and people of Russia; or China; or England. Could they do this without high level help from inside?

They were cool with what he had done.

You can bet your bottom dollar on that. We've created a lot of widows and orphans and parents who are grieving for killed children in Muslim countries over the years and they loved seeing such devastation here. I am saddened and disgusted by both mentalities.

what you think should be done to bring those evil people to justice and dissuade others from trying such in the future.

For one, I think 'we' should stop trying to balance out the value of human lives in terms of barrels of oil.

Thank you for asking your questions in such non-inflammatory terms. You may not agree with me and thats okay, but I appreciate the civility.

278 posted on 12/13/2001 12:59:45 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Tell me, RW, if you had a rabid dog, would you shoot all the dogs in the kennel

Would you like some Irish with that coffee?

279 posted on 12/13/2001 1:01:53 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Hugh Akston
Thank you
280 posted on 12/13/2001 1:03:53 PM PST by pcl
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