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To: sneakypete
Basically,you signed away your citizenship rights when you enlisted and took the oath. As a citizen,you have the right to give up your rights for the length of the contract. You no longer have Constitutional rights,only rights GRANTED under the UCMJ. Now that you are no longer in uniform,you are a full-flegded citizen again.

If they were inalienable, then could they be signed away?

291 posted on 12/02/2001 4:29:54 PM PST by lepton
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To: lepton; sneakypete; Squantos
"...As a career serviceman I was subject to military justice (UCMJ) for 26 years.
But according to Mr Barr it's too harsh on our non-citizen enemies..."

# 102 by Squantos
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"Basically,you signed away your citizenship rights when you enlisted and took the oath. As a citizen,you have the right to give up your rights for the length of the contract. You no longer have Constitutional rights,only rights GRANTED under the UCMJ. Now that you are no longer in uniform,you are a full-flegded citizen again."
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To: sneakypete
If they were inalienable, then could they be signed away?
# 291 by lepton

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The rights are not signed away, lepton.
They are temporarily put aside, in the name of duty.

The military is a part of our government that is allowed to infringe upon it's members rights to promote necessary discipline. Someone who doesn't obey orders is a danger to himself and others.

That obedience to orders isn't expected of ordinary citizens.

Just as in time of war or national emergency the rights of ordinary citizens would be infringed temporarily, so a soldier accepts temporary curtailment of his rights to fulfill his duty.

303 posted on 12/02/2001 4:46:25 PM PST by exodus
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To: lepton
If they were inalienable, then could they be signed away?

Of course. They are YOUR rights. You can't sign away the rights of others,though.

343 posted on 12/02/2001 5:23:35 PM PST by sneakypete
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