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VPC's "youths" include 14-to-17 year old boys (you know, people who are old enough to be taught CONDOM SAFETY in government school class?).

Now, check out THIS statistic:

Nationally, an average of two children a day were killed with handguns, and more children were killed with handguns than with all other weapons combined, the group found.

Ummmmm...hold it a minute...VPC has stated in the past that 13 children a day are killed by guns.

Handgun Control, Inc. used that number, too.

Even if that were the total considering every kind of gun...HOW IN THE WORLD did they ever come up with 13 a day by every kind of gun...with 2 handguns per day killing more children "than...all other weapons combined"?

Oh...it gets better, folks...

Karen Brock, author of the study, "Kids in the Line of Fire," acknowledged surprise at Maryland's rankings, noting that the state has some of the toughest handgun laws in the nation. She said Maryland's laws have targeted handgun sales but apparently have not sufficiently reduced the number of handguns in the homes.

What do handguns in the HOME have to do with kids who didn't get their guns from their dads in the first place?

'Fess up, VPC...your "children" are mostly comprised of YOUNG MEN who run rampant in the streets, who will not follow any gun control laws the government enacts upon the general populace!!

Here's an aspect of VPC's math that bears scrutiny:

Black gang members + guns + gun control = gun violence
Therefore:
Law-abiding black men + guns + gun freedom = MORE gun violence?

Ummmmm....just what EXACTLY are you trying to say, VPC?

**Hey...those are YOUR stats, remember...**

1 posted on 12/01/2001 12:06:10 AM PST by Mercuria
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BUMP!
2 posted on 12/01/2001 12:07:12 AM PST by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
I think Maryland has the worst gun laws in the country besides Connecticutt(with ther Turn in your neighbor policy).

Ya mean old Paris Glendining, and gun grabber J Joseph Curran(I think he's MD) are FAILURES at stopping violence involving people using firearms despite that?? Go figure.

3 posted on 12/01/2001 12:09:26 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Mercuria
(you know, people who are old enough to be taught CONDOM SAFETY in government school class?).

I missed that. Too bad. I could have had a perfect pickup line when I was in high school.

4 posted on 12/01/2001 12:10:47 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Mercuria
I have often contended, and have to be proved wrong, that Maryland is the second dumbest state in the union (I live in Baltimore), but they are constantly flirting with being the dumbest. The entire state owes a debt of gratitude to the state of New York for electing Hillary Clinton.

And they ought to throw me a parade everytime I cross the state line, or they would be the dumbest.

5 posted on 12/01/2001 12:18:55 AM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Mercuria
Even if that were the total considering every kind of gun...HOW IN THE WORLD did they ever come up with 13 a day by every kind of gun...with 2 handguns per day killing more children "than...all other weapons combined"?

Simple.

Of the thirteen, one was shot with a handgun in a drug deal gone bad, the other committed suicide with a pistol.

Number three was killed with a shotgun.

Four committed suicide with a semi-automatic rifle.

Five was accidentally shot with an "assault weapon."

Six was out hunting, and was shot by accident by another hunter using an Etron-X electronically fired rifle.

Seven was murdered with a sniper rifle.

Eight accidentally shot himself with a lever-action rifle.

Nine was gunned down by an MP5 submachine gun in a no-knock drug raid gone bad.

Ten accidentally shot his friend with a muzzleloading rifle.

Eleven was out hiking and wandered by accident into a military training range, and was eviscerated by a 40mm rifle grenade.

Twelve was "disappeared" by the GSG-9 because he was the youngest suspected member of al-Qaeda, he was eliminated with a G11-ACR firing 4.92x34mm caseless ammunition.

Thirteen was accidentally killed when an A-10 Thunderbolt (known commonly as the "Warthog") heading to Afghanistan lost an engine and fell out of the sky, the GAU autocannon landed on the poor girl's head, killing her instantly.


So there you have it: thirteen kids, 12 different kinds of guns. And this happens every day! Well, some days it's historical cannons, other days it's full auto machineguns, usually it's only about 8 kids killed a day by exotic weapons. But every few weeks, a howitzer shell takes out twenty or thirty of them at a time, which brings the average back up. And that's how they arrive at the 13/day figure.

6 posted on 12/01/2001 12:23:27 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: Mercuria
Some are surprised by ranking, given toughness of laws

Isn't the constant repetition of the same mistake one of the hallmarks of insanity?

On the other hand, if one makes a living working at the Violence Policy Center, acknowledging the real cause of the violence would result in career suicide.

So the choices would be:

1) admit you're insane or

2) perpetuate the problem to keep those dollars rolling in, while asserting how much you deeply, deeply care. And, the Holy Grail for gun-grabbers, you can assume an air of moral superiority.

One thing is for sure, these people will never go away.

9 posted on 12/01/2001 2:47:42 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Mercuria
She said Maryland's laws have targeted handgun sales
but apparently have not sufficiently reduced the number of handguns in the homes.

It's a sad day when they can say, openly, that they have been working to to take away our guns...
and that their goal is to take away even more guns from our homes...
and most of the populace thinks nothing of it.

16 posted on 12/01/2001 5:24:58 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Mercuria
Thanks for the heads up, bookmarking this one.
18 posted on 12/01/2001 6:34:24 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Mercuria
Nationally, an average of two children a day were killed with handguns, and more children were killed with handguns than with all other weapons combined, the group found. Ummmmm...hold it a minute...VPC has stated in the past that 13 children a day are killed by guns.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of petty minds. Don't bother the VPC with the facts. It will only confuse them.

19 posted on 12/01/2001 7:06:36 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: Mercuria
BUMP
20 posted on 12/01/2001 7:49:25 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Mercuria
A rough cause and effect case might be made that gun control causes crime. All three of these states contain major cities which probably account for the majority of the crime. All of these cities, Baltimore, Washington DC, Chicago and New Orleans all have draconian gun control laws.

Although gun control probably causes some of the problems the real reason is so obvious that a blind man could see it.

All of these cities contain very (extremely) high concentrations of Blacks. Everyone is afraid to admit that much, maybe most, of crime is in fact committed by a small percentage of the population. BTW it is not just that Blacks commit crime. Rural Blacks have a fairly low crime rate. (I know because I did a study on just that subject in grad school).

23 posted on 12/01/2001 8:55:20 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Mercuria
'Fess up, VPC...your "children" are mostly comprised of YOUNG MEN who run rampant in the streets, who will not follow any gun control laws the government enacts upon the general populace!!

This point needs to be made over and over again.

26 posted on 12/01/2001 9:28:01 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Mercuria
Nice investigations Mercuria, and remember, they don't say who is shooting the "children", the sex of the victims, nor the circumstances leading up to the shooting. For instance, a police officer shooting in self defence, home owner in self defence, gang related, or drug related. Basically any criminal act leading up to the shooting vs. accidents.

But don't be so hard on them, Maryland just wants to disarm its citizens to ease the terrible burden on the young criminal from wondering if his intended victim will be armed and could shoot back. Its for the children, don't you know.

28 posted on 12/01/2001 11:14:27 AM PST by HighWheeler
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To: Mercuria
The author of this article meant to say "utes."
29 posted on 12/01/2001 11:18:48 AM PST by junta
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