Does The World Deserve America?

tmcnet.com ^ | November 2001 | NADJI TEHRANI

[IncPen]

My brother sent me this; it's hidden deep in a trade site. I posted it because it's a good example- like one I read earlier today here on FR- of American businessmen clearly stating Why We Fight.

[spunkets]

Good Post!

[mostlyundecided]

Thank you for posting this.

Too bad it was buried - it should be printed where all can read it - especially those from the middle east who blame America for all that has happened.

[garycooper]

Thank you very much.

[LibKill]

Does The World Deserve America?

Probably not, but we are here anyway.

Any nation that will take our example (in law and in fact) will get loads of help from us.

We are a generous people. We help anyone we can.

We are also a fiece people. The world is now learning a simple lesson.

It is much better to be with the Americans than against them.

'Nuff said.

[GOPJ]

bump

[vladog]

In my view most of the 'good' we have done in the world, is why we are hated so. It`s like having a rich brother, while you can`t seem to ever get it right. Your brother gives you momey or loans it to you. This happens several times. Now you don`t ever pay the loans back you only ask for more. Soon enough you begin hateing your brother. He is always there for you. But you can never seem to get your s*** strack. Soon you feel so pitiful and worthless that all you can do is rage at your brother. You laugh with glee when he has any kind of problem. There in I think lies the problem between America and the rest of the world.

[gcruse]

I kept waiting for the "But!" thanks for posting.

[Tribune7]

Thank you Nadji Tehrani.

[wildconservatism]

A problem I noticed, there are others, but this one is the most important to me:

5.) America Is The Educational Source For Many World Leaders. Indeed, many world leaders, business leaders and technology leaders are trained in the United States' universities and related institutions. Practically every cabinet member of every country includes several people trained in the United States. I ask, how could such a wonderful country that has done so much for the world be considered evil?

How is adding more non-English speaking TAs to teach math to us helping us, when we can't understand what they're saying? Trust me, it happens. Plus, every space occupied by foreign students is a space that could have been taken by an American boy. Why aren't we taking care of our own first? Additionally, many foreign students act as spies who come to take specialized knowledge back to their own nations to use to compete against us.

[MJY1288]

Very Good post, It needs more attention,

John, I think this needs your attention

[wife-mom]

Your #7 is very thought-provoking. Thank you.

That particular slant on why we are hated had never occurred to me, probably because I never had a rich brother, but it makes sense. Could it be true? Have to think on that one.

[IncPen]

How is adding more non-English speaking TAs to teach math to us helping us, when we can't understand what they're saying? Trust me, it happens. Plus, every space occupied by foreign students is a space that could have been taken by an American boy. Why aren't we taking care of our own first? Additionally, many foreign students act as spies who come to take specialized knowledge back to their own nations to use to compete against us.

I believe his point is exactly what you perceive as a problem: we share the good things that we have. It's like the saying, "Give a man a fish, and he'll eat once. Teach him to fish and he'll eat forever." It's about breaking the cycle of dependency.

What else do you have a problem with?

[Concentrate]

, the directives, which encourage the terrorists to kill mass numbers of innocent men, women and children in the United States and elsewhere are clearly forbidden by the best of Islamic traditions and writings.

Best of? Weasle words.

In fact, many Islamic clergymen have come forward and clearly stated that these actions have nothing to do with Islam or the Koran (the official book and teachings of Islam).

The silence is deafening. Where are the fatwas calling for the death of these people who would damage the majority of "peace-loving" Moslems?

Oh, and make sure that you wish me a Merry Christmas with all your heart. Say it out loud.

[wildconservatism]

1.) Human Rights Champion.

Lots of nations may perceive American imposition of their standards as universals as a negative. China falls into this category. Serbia as well. Don't laugh at this one, but if Star Trek got anything right, it was the idea of the Prime Directive--non-interference in the development of other cultures. After all, the technologies used against us by Osama and friends are Western technologies that Arabs and other non-Westerners should never have been given access to.

2.) Land Of Opportunity For All Religions, Races And Minorities, Including Women.

Somehow I have a hard time seeing what those Haitians have given us, for example.

4.) America Is A Superpower With Empathy.

Anybody who knows anything about politics will realize that food drops in Afghanistan are meant to generate good PR and keep friendly Muslim countries on board with the program. I'm not criticizing realpolitik, I think that's the only way to go in this world, I'm just taking issue with our not being honest about it.

7.) The United States Is Also A World Leader In Foreign Aid.

This is the clincher...with all this talk of generosity and compassion and the like, where the he!! is it in the Constitution that the U.S. owes other countries a living, or is responsible for educating foreign citizens. Heck, the Federal government has no business having a Department of Education for domestic purposes, for that matter.

The subtext of the article might be right at least: Americans are the world's suckers. We're being used and abused. Time to cut the world loose.

[xm177e2]

Somehow I have a hard time seeing what those Haitians have given us, for example.

Ummm... cheap labor?

[Concentrate]

I believe his point is exactly what you perceive as a problem: we share the good things that we have. It's like the saying, "Give a man a fish, and he'll eat once. Teach him to fish and he'll eat forever." It's about breaking the cycle of dependency.

Well then, let's teach foreign folks how to fish via the internet, shall we?

Virtually any real estate in the world can be converted into a garden with knowledge, so the poverty excuse is not credible anymore. Exactly what we do decide to teach/make available is important. For example, making the specifications available to all via a public trial of the defendants of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center was not such a good idea. Wouldn't you agree?

[Concentrate]

I'm not criticizing realpolitik, I think that's the only way to go in this world, I'm just taking issue with our not being honest about it.

So, do you think it was 100% PR? Could you give an example or pure altruism among or between nations in history?

[dighton]

I kept waiting for the "But!" thanks for posting.

Exactly! Good reply, good post.