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To: Principled
Then stand up and recognize that muslims ARE suspect right now- deal with that by trying to help. The constant "leave us alone" is not the message that will help you. You are not a victim- you must realize that. Do the things that show you reject terrorism- believe it or not, muslims aren't out there rejecting terrorism. Can you believe that? Remember that you must diferrentiate yourself from the muslim terrorists. No muslims are out there doing that. Can you believe that?

I believe that Muslims all over the world have condemed the actions of the fanatics on 911. As for me, I will stand up and be an American and I will stand up an be a Muslim. I will not stand up and be a suspect. You may think I'm quilty, but I can assure you I am not and I will not behave as if I am guilty just to satifsy other's need for revenge.

I take no more responsibility for 911 than Christians do for the actions of Tim McVeigh, the idiots that blow up abortion clinics, the IRA, Hitler, the Bathe Separatists, Slovodan Milosovich, the Unabomber, the KKK, the Aryan Nation, the American kids that blow up their schools and shoot and kill their teachers and class mates and other "terrorists" and "potential terrorists" among us.

Sorry, EclipseVI. I am not aiming this at you! Just ranting.

150 posted on 11/29/2001 6:10:05 PM PST by EclipseVI
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To: EclipseVI
I take no more responsibility for 911 than Christians do for the actions of Tim McVeigh

McVeigh was an agnostic.

151 posted on 11/29/2001 6:12:57 PM PST by FITZ
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To: EclipseVI
Very well-stated, EclipseVI. Bravo.
152 posted on 11/29/2001 6:14:06 PM PST by JoJo the Clown
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To: EclipseVI
Here is some more information on that Muslim "morality" that liars claim is more stringent than Christian morality (which would never condone fornication even by making it "legal"):

In the previous sections, we explained the difference between the Mut'a and the long-term marriage (conventional), and one can see that there is not much differences between them. Also as I mentioned, one may marry permanently and then divorces his wife after one day. So what will be the difference?

Moreover, Allah (SWT) did not consider it prostitution when He revealed the verse, but you do!? All Muslims agree that the Prophet (PBUH&HF) has legislated Mut'a at some point, and we as Muslims believe that the Prophet does not speak from his own desires (La Yantiqu Anil Hawa), so God has permitted it at some point of time. This very fact differentiates between temporary marriage and adultery, because God and His Prophet do NOT legitimize adultery. No prophet of God ever did that.

A simple answer for your question is that one is legal and the other one is illegal. Let me give you an example:

Suppose a foreigner who may be very experienced in driving car back home, when going to another country he may need to apply for a driver license to be able to drive. Now if he drives without driver license, then what is the difference between him and a person who drives with license but may not be as experienced as the former? The answer simply is that the act of the former is illegal while the latter is legal.

The partners may have sex in the three cases of prostitution, temporary marriage, and permanent marriage. Quran declares the first one illegal but has made the latter two legal. The other difference, of course, is that the prostitute has another contract one hour later, but in both temporary and permanent marriage it is the duty of woman to wait for a couple of months before entering another contract. As I mentioned according to ALL of the Shia scholars the "Iddah" for the Mut'a is two menstrual cycles (or at least 45 days if the woman is of menstruating age but for some reason does not menstruate). This would provide less than 8 customers a year for a prostitute!!! I think any prostitution agency would go bankrupt in the first year if it wants to follow the regulations of Mut'a. And there are many more differences between prostitution and temporary marriage. May Allah guide those who unknowingly ridicule His religion and His Prophet.

So where is the stringent morality???? You Muslims can fornicate if you call it something else. Just like adultery isn't what Christians call adultery.

159 posted on 11/29/2001 6:20:53 PM PST by FITZ
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To: EclipseVI
I believe that Muslims all over the world have condemed the actions of the fanatics on 911.

No, not so. Some have. Why not all?

I will not stand up and be a suspect.

Nobody wants you to do so.

You misread, yet again.

The only things folks want you to do are:
separate yourself from the terrorists.
understand that because our nation is under attack, we are obviously far more suspicious of likely enemies within our borders (hence #1 above).
stop whining and acting a victim, you are not a victim.
Take some action to help Muslims and America. Whining does neither, indeed it works to the detriment of muslims.

237 posted on 11/30/2001 5:52:25 AM PST by Principled
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